Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Inkheart]

I have to agree that is just a bit TOO "naked" for me - kinda cool looking though - lets you really see the real structure of a chicken!

 

[ca]

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The dad is a - what are those black and white cows called again? No seriously. My best guess at this point is NN father and Ancona mother. I have another one like this just a little more black. This one has pink skin on the front side of the neck and dark skin on the back side. Hope it all stays this way. It will look hilarious when fully grown (HOPE it's a girl

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[banjoejoe4783]

yes chickens have the scaless geen it is close to a faital geen (like tuffed on anuacana) the scaless geen is also found in NNs but is only in there neck thise is why they don't have feathers because there are no foliculs for them to grow feathers dose this meen that all NNs care the geen to be 100% scaless ??? mabee but it would take years of breeding becuase it is resesive i know i just confused you because the NN geen is donanet and if the rooster is a pure NN then 100% of the babyes will be also even if breed to a fethered will the scelless geen both parents have to carry the trait to be 100% scaless and only about 3% will be 100% scalless but all will carry the trait if you look at my NN that carry the scales geen you will see that they are missing a couple rows of scalless on there feet

kurka
Today 6:28 am Scaleless gene is present in chickens too, but it makes lot's of problems with their healt, as i know..

some do sufer from hath problems but not because on thescaless geen but rather because they lak the protection of fethers so they can get chilled easly they also can get hurt easly and then infection can set in i have no other heath broblems with mine they are vigerus and strong they just dont have feathers

 

[Kev]

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What do I think? I think they're beautiful!!! Most admirable project!!!

 

[Kev]

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Scaleless mutant in chickens is a single recessive gene. The name is from lack of scales on legs and feet- look closely at his pictures and you can see the legs and toes are completely smooth. What it does is interrupt follicle formation in the skin, thus preventing feathers, scales from forming at all, leaving the skin very smooth. Some or many of them do have occasional and completely random feathers growing on their body, these are the areas where the processes in the skin still manage to get some chemical action going enough to produce a follicle. Interestingly, they can be selected and bred to go either way- for much more naked, less feathers or for more feathers.

As to it being new/old mutant, in the Crawford book of poultry genetics, it has a 'discovery date' of 1957 in a New Hampshire flock reported by Abbott and Amundson. It's very likely it has popped up before- it still shows up 'randomly' in various flocks, I've seen pictures of a completely naked Oriental type rooster in an Asian country, can't remember which one it is at the moment and on an Australian forum, one showed up in a hatch from a backyard flock and is currently being raised(this one's a pullet and has a few random feathers). Both of them have completely smooth legs so it's likely the same scaleless mutation.

No idea if it's analogous to scaleless in snakes. My guess is 'probably'...

 

[Inkheart]

Once again Kev- you are my chicken hero LOL - very interesting

 

[banjoejoe4783]

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Scaleless mutant in chickens is a single recessive gene. The name is from lack of scales on legs and feet- look closely at his pictures and you can see the legs and toes are completely smooth. What it does is interrupt follicle formation in the skin, thus preventing feathers, scales from forming at all, leaving the skin very smooth. Some or many of them do have occasional and completely random feathers growing on their body, these are the areas where the processes in the skin still manage to get some chemical action going enough to produce a follicle. Interestingly, they can be selected and bred to go either way- for much more naked, less feathers or for more feathers.

As to it being new/old mutant, in the Crawford book of poultry genetics, it has a 'discovery date' of 1957 in a New Hampshire flock reported by Abbott and Amundson. It's very likely it has popped up before- it still shows up 'randomly' in various flocks, I've seen pictures of a completely naked Oriental type rooster in an Asian country, can't remember which one it is at the moment and on an Australian forum, one showed up in a hatch from a backyard flock and is currently being raised(this one's a pullet and has a few random feathers). Both of them have completely smooth legs so it's likely the same scaleless mutation.

No idea if it's analogous to scaleless in snakes. My guess is 'probably'...

thanks for helping explane great job

when i try it just comes out all momboe jomboe and no one understands me

 

[gootziecat]

What is the weights on bantam NNs?

 

[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

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From the ASOP for Naked Neck Bantam...
Cock: 34 oz
Cockerel: 30 oz
Hen: 30 oz
Pullet: 26 oz

Lisa

 

[gootziecat]

Thank you, Lisa.