NC Coyotes population increasing

[Bossroo]

Here in Cal. We count the coyotes by the dozen. Community sings every night. They come to both of our front and back doors all the time looking for food. The coyotes killed both of my 90 & 95 pounds of solid muscle Boxers. My neighbor's 100 pound Rottweiler also was killed a month ago... all he found was the head and hide attached to one front leg about 100 feet from his house. One will start a fight with the dog, then they have a running fight untill they reach the pack at which point the dog is torn appart.

 

[Bettacreek]

.243

or the BF's .22 250. Heck, if it's close enough, the 20g or the .45 pistol. Whatever's close at hand I suppose. Granted, we go coyote hunting for fun (plus, we get $250 per coyote).

 

[Swamp Roo]

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I'm afraid you are quoting a persistent urban myth. Rest assured that your state DNR/Game & Fish, does not release apex predators into an urban environment. I have talked to them about this, they laughed and said "Yeah, and we tie damsels in distress to the railroad tracks too!".

The fact is some states have a year round "season" without bag limits in a somewhat futile effort to control them. Getting rid of coyotes is about as easy a getting rid of raccoons. You may get a bunch, but they breed so fast that they will be back soon. As others have stated coyotes do very well living amongst man. While Coyotes will prey on deer (mostly fawns) the biggest threat is to small game, which of course is why our birds are once again on the menu. As we expand our "territory" more and more, we will have more and more problems.

Sounds like you did about as much as you could, short of building your run out of chain link/sheep panel/stone. I have a very similar setup to yours from the sound of it. Some times you just get unlucky. That doesn't help how you feel when you loose your birds though. In the last week I have relocated 2 possums, and 2 raccoons (just came in from skinning the latest) to the bottom of my gator hole. Probably not even a dent in the population but I'm getting rid of the bolder ones, that's all I can do. I'll set the trap again tonight. The coyotes have left me alone so far, but we have plenty here.

Swamp

 

[vfem]

Yeah I posted this last summer from an article I found on the increase. We also talked to a sherrif in Wake county about it. We found a few dead on hwy 42 between harnett, Johnston and Wake county. Turned out my mom lost 2 cats to some coyotes... they are just growing everywhere.

 

[allanimals21]

I'm in central mn and last year I had one coyote that had a thing for showing up in the middle of the day. I chased him out a few times. Sucker never showed up when I had the shot gun out though.

 

[Swamp Roo]

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It's like they have a sixth sense. I keep hearing that over and over. Drives the ranchers crazy. This is why I keep mine by the door with a wide range of ammo and look outside before stepping out (I've had 200# boar hogs 4' from the door one the porch).

Swamp

 

[goosedragon]

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I'm afraid you are quoting a persistent urban myth. Rest assured that your state DNR/Game & Fish, does not release apex predators into an urban environment. I have talked to them about this, they laughed and said "Yeah, and we tie damsels in distress to the railroad tracks too!".

The fact is some states have a year round "season" without bag limits in a somewhat futile effort to control them. Getting rid of coyotes is about as easy a getting rid of raccoons. You may get a bunch, but they breed so fast that they will be back soon. As others have stated coyotes do very well living amongst man. While Coyotes will prey on deer (mostly fawns) the biggest threat is to small game, which of course is why our birds are once again on the menu. As we expand our "territory" more and more, we will have more and more problems.

Sounds like you did about as much as you could, short of building your run out of chain link/sheep panel/stone. I have a very similar setup to yours from the sound of it. Some times you just get unlucky. That doesn't help how you feel when you loose your birds though. In the last week I have relocated 2 possums, and 2 raccoons (just came in from skinning the latest) to the bottom of my gator hole. Probably not even a dent in the population but I'm getting rid of the bolder ones, that's all I can do. I'll set the trap again tonight. The coyotes have left me alone so far, but we have plenty here.

Swamp

I didn't say that I believed it but I was told this by a DNR/ fish and game agent who came to my place to investigate a report that I was keeping and abusing a Canada goose ( one of the city people saw me using a herding stick to keep my african away from my mower while I was mowing). Coyote are native to the mountains to the west and the swamps to the east in NC. also not apex preditors since we still have bears, wolf. and big cats called 'panthers' running in the less populated areas of the state. Due to my camera system I have seen coons and possums trying out my fence and leaving after getting zaped. BTW we also have problems with peafowl excaping to the wild and competing with wild turkey for food.

 

[Manok-Tao]

I really wanted to quote one of the first posts, then another then another. This thread has many important inputs from a lot of members in different areas of the country. It's easy to say a shotgun or .22 is the answer (and I agree) but many of us live within city limits and the discharge of a firearm is a no-no. I have just under 3 acres with about 100 acres behind me but have recently been annexed into "city" limits. There really isn't a blanket answer and sadly regardless if your in the city or county the vermin canines are on the increase, adapting to the situation, inbreeding with feral dogs. Don't even go to the thought of "the government needs to do something"; for the love of the country they can't even govern within the bounds that "we the people" gave them. When I grew up in Calif. my buddies and I would chase them with our dirt bikes, shoot them with 22's from a rock outcrop...they were fair game as as vermin.
When I was in the Phillipines (70's USAF) I had a problem with a pack of feral dogs banging on and howling outside my house's front gate when my house dog was in heat...I eventually had to go to the BX (base exchange) and buy prepackaged frozen steaks. I brought them home and marinate them in Anti-Freeze for about 24 hours....feral dogs would show up in street outside gate and I would toss the steaks to them......never had a problem again. Yes that is cruel and unkind but I was not allowed a gun as the country was under martial law...same as living in the city limits. Yes the dogs died a slow cruel death but there was no other recourse. Coyotes are needed in the food chain in the upper/lower deserts of our country. WE have created the implosion of the coyote population by conditioning them to expand their ranges as we provide easy meals with livestock, pets and garbage, the range increase has been going on for decades.
Not real sure what the answer is...if there is one. Regionally it's handled as dictated or as those persons within that region deem necessary.
The coyote problem across the country is no longer one that can be substantiated by animal rights activists (I am NOT against them/that) but is a problem that needs to be addressed by each region to eliminate the feral populations of dog/coyote mixes as well as the wild breed itself.
Hope I didn't P.O. the whole board

 

[Kenneth Flippen]

we have had Great Pyrenees for a couple of years now our male started working at 6 months and hasn't let up yet I can't remember the last time I heard one the last one I saw at the house was when Hank(pyreneese) kept him out of our yard at 6 months. I'm in N.W. North Carolina, Dobson Surry County we did have problems loosing a coupls of chickens a day/night. when we had beagles I could let them out they would cross the creek and hunt a cut over on the hill side and hank would go with them you could see him setting on the watching them. I guess he was watching over them. neat to watch. also require very little training ours required none other than to come when called protction is natural to them



Kenneth

they make great pets, home/family defenders

 

[greenfamilyfarms]

At LEAST once a month they make a fuss behind our house in the corn fields. They yip and howl and get our Great Pyrenees all in a tissy. I actually saw one in the daylight this week. I was driving and it was running across a field, crossed the road, and ran into a person's yard. And, no, it was not a dog.