Necropsie "Graphic Photos"

[casportpony]

Do you think the worms could be the cause of blood or is there possibly another illness causing it?

If the blood is coming from the ceca I don't think cecal worms would cause that much blood, and I base that on a couple of necropsies I did where if found cecal worms, but no blood (I have pictures if you are interested). Twice I have seen blood like that in mine, one was a young pullet, the other was a turkey poult. The pullet had coccidiosis, the poult had blackhead (histomoniasis). Blackhead is rare in chickens, but it does happen.

What do you think on his eyes?

When I see funny eyes I just assume it's ocular Marek's and if I can get clear enough pictures I email them to a UC Davis pathologist to see what he says.

 

[casportpony]

Yeah I'd have to use drops. Their intestines were clear of visible worms though

If you used the Pour on for cattle the minimum effective dose is about 0.05 ml per pound of bodyweight which is about 2-3 drops per pound of body weight. If you used any less than that it wasn't enough. The average sized hen weighs about 5 pounds so it would 0.25 ml (1/4 cc).

Unless the intestines are packed full of large roundworms you will not see them unless you cut open the intestines. Capillary worms and cecal worms are very small, so you would have to look very closely to see those.

 

[Momma_Bear]

If the blood is coming from the ceca I don't think cecal worms would cause that much blood, and I base that on a couple of necropsies I did where if found cecal worms, but no blood (I have pictures if you are interested). Twice I have seen blood like that in mine, one was a young pullet, the other was a turkey poult. The pullet had coccidiosis, the poult had blackhead (histomoniasis). Blackhead is rare in chickens, but it does happen.


When I see funny eyes I just assume it's ocular Marek's and if I can get clear enough pictures I email them to a UC Davis pathologist to see what he says.

Of course, id love to see and learn!! I've treated hardcore for Coccidiosis veggie all the blood. Then am treating again and after that amount of blood, I've seen no more ATM..

Is this something anyone could do, our is that a friend type of thing? Are those pictures clear enough for answers?

If you used the Pour on for cattle the minimum effective dose is about 0.05 ml per pound of bodyweight which is about 2-3 drops per pound of body weight. If you used any less than that it wasn't enough. The average sized hen weighs about 5 pounds so it would 0.25 ml (1/4 cc).

Unless the intestines are packed full of large roundworms you will not see them unless you cut open the intestines. Capillary worms and cecal worms are very small, so you would have to look very closely to see those.

Yeah, I cut the intestines and saw no worms at all. I'm scared out worms, so I have a good eye for them Lol..

 

[Momma_Bear]

Ok so I weight them and then put o.o5 ml per pound on the bird?

 

[casportpony]

Ok so I weight them and then put o.o5 ml per pound on the bird?

Yes, but keep in mind that it's not an effective wormer. It won't treat capillary worms and cecal worms. Might treat large roundworm though.

 

[rebrascora]

For some reason I haven't been getting alerts for this thread so I am only just getting caught up.
My gut feeling is still that you are probably dealing with Marek's.
Marek's suppresses the immune system and leaves them vulnerable to secondary infections like coccidiosis and causes muscle wastage and that eye looks suspiciously like ocular Marek's. You had a bird that was unsteady on it's feet and some of them at least are at the prime age to suffer a Marek's outbreak. Yes it is possible that all these things are not connected but it more likely that they are and since Marek's is an incredibly common disease, it all points to it being the cause in my opinion.

 

[Momma_Bear]

Yes, but keep in mind that it's not an effective wormer. It won't treat capillary worms and cecal worms. Might treat large roundworm though.

Odd I was told it would. So what should I use?

For some reason I haven't been getting alerts for this thread so I am only just getting caught up.
My gut feeling is still that you are probably dealing with Marek's.
Marek's suppresses the immune system and leaves them vulnerable to secondary infections like coccidiosis and causes muscle wastage and that eye looks suspiciously like ocular Marek's. You had a bird that was unsteady on it's feet and some of them at least are at the prime age to suffer a Marek's outbreak. Yes it is possible that all these things are not connected but it more likely that they are and since Marek's is an incredibly common disease, it all points to it being the cause in my opinion.

I had a feeling on thwart, Thank you!!!

 

[Momma_Bear]

Well 2 chicks of the flock (4+months old) are hanging on by a thread... I desperately need tio get them FULLY off ground. The Cockerel was burried in mud. I never saw him till mud moved. He was drowning in mud. I quickly got him and shook him upside down as I went tio the water. Washed him off, squirted water in his mouth and shook it out until it was clear. I then passed him to my mom where he was lifeless. She began drying him off while I got the pullet from off the chicken patio. She was in much better shape then the Cockerel, but still hanging by a thread. They are under a heat lamp and I force fed and watered them (carefully of course because of their air way) and the roster is standing. Wobbly, but standing, they are both thin and the roosters eyes are getting splotchy like his brothers... I can't wait to get through the worst of all this

 

[Momma_Bear]

I did find a lot of lice on them, so that will be treated as well.. I can't wait till we get them back off ground! I never thought out would cause this much damage

 

[Momma_Bear]

My dad came home early!!! Yes!!! Hopefully we can get it up before he leaves Monday!