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lclark said:
  • In areas with a history of gout, feed protein should not exceed the standard breed requirements. The raw materials should be carefully monitored for adulteration with urea, which might be one of the reasons for increased uric acid production. Feed dilution should be practiced when gout is observed. This can be carried out either by partial dilution of feed with grain source or by entire replacement of feed with pure grain sources (ground maize) for three to five days to reduce the exertion of kidneys to expel uric acid.
  • Ample numbers of waterers should be provided to encourage ad libitum water intake. Similarly, the waterer height needs to be adequate according to the size of birds.
  • Provision of urine acidifiers like vinegar, potassium chloride, ammonium chloride and ammonium sulphate through water/feed seem to be fruitful to reduce the incidence of gout.
  • Kidney revitalisers play a vital role in boosting up the kidney function, thereby facilitating the flushing of accumulated urates, and need to be used in water. This can be used as a preventive measure in flocks with a previous history of gout in the initial week of chick’s life. It can also be used as a prophylactic in water for 4-5 days continuously, for effectively controlling the gout mortality.
  • Provision of methionine hydroxyl analogue, diuretics, coconut water and so on, has also been found be beneficial in controlling gout
This is all information from the link I posted for you. This information is used to help control and/or treat the ailment. At this point though with your chicken being in desperate need of a treatment your best bet would be to find an avian (bird) vet in your state. You may lose this bird also if he doesn't get treatment right away and no one wants that to happen. I can send you a link for an avian vet in your state if you wish.
Again, good luck
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This is excellent advice! Try to follow these instructions, SAVE THAT BIRD!
 
Ok, something that keeps nagging at me....water. Yes, it freezes over. You mentioned how you have the rubber shallower type pan for water, and you can tip it to get the ice out. This could be most of your problem. Not the pan per se, but that you're not keeping it dumped often enough so the water is liquid most of the time. They're not getting enough water, it's messing up their kidney function, and causing gout, or at the very least, aggravating the gout. There are several examples of home made wooden boxes, with light bulbs in them, that keep the shallow pans warm enough they don't ice up. Others use a heating element in their buckets to keep the water in its liquid state. There are dog dishes that have this feature too, that work well for many.
 
lclark said:
  • In areas with a history of gout, feed protein should not exceed the standard breed requirements. The raw materials should be carefully monitored for adulteration with urea, which might be one of the reasons for increased uric acid production. Feed dilution should be practiced when gout is observed. This can be carried out either by partial dilution of feed with grain source or by entire replacement of feed with pure grain sources (ground maize) for three to five days to reduce the exertion of kidneys to expel uric acid.
  • Ample numbers of waterers should be provided to encourage ad libitum water intake. Similarly, the waterer height needs to be adequate according to the size of birds.
  • Provision of urine acidifiers like vinegar, potassium chloride, ammonium chloride and ammonium sulphate through water/feed seem to be fruitful to reduce the incidence of gout.
  • Kidney revitalisers play a vital role in boosting up the kidney function, thereby facilitating the flushing of accumulated urates, and need to be used in water. This can be used as a preventive measure in flocks with a previous history of gout in the initial week of chick’s life. It can also be used as a prophylactic in water for 4-5 days continuously, for effectively controlling the gout mortality.
  • Provision of methionine hydroxyl analogue, diuretics, coconut water and so on, has also been found be beneficial in controlling gout
This is all information from the link I posted for you. This information is used to help control and/or treat the ailment. At this point though with your chicken being in desperate need of a treatment your best bet would be to find an avian (bird) vet in your state. You may lose this bird also if he doesn't get treatment right away and no one wants that to happen. I can send you a link for an avian vet in your state if you wish.
Again, good luck
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Theres no bird vet any where
 
getaclue said:
Iclark shared a fairly good link on managing gout. Do you know why everyone is asking which brand of layer feed you are using? Well, there's a good reason for it. Diet can play a key role in managing gout. Some brands are higher in copper, lower in phosphorous, lower in vitamin a, and some feed stores sell older feed, so the nutrients are depleted, while there are a couple brands that don't seem to live up the the nutrients stated on the label, and people tend to have trouble with them. That is why everyone wants to know which layer feed you are using, so they can look up the ratios. Lots of clean, fresh water is key too. Most gout, not all though is caused by kidney problems.

You are mentioning a hen that's in distress too? This is why everyone wants to know your set up, their living conditions, etc. Living conditions can play a key role in overall health of the flock. In addition to living conditions, the area you live in will have its own problems, and advantages. No one wants your address, but there is a huge difference between coop management in New York, and coop management in Central Florida where I live. How often you inspect your chickens, and treat your coop for mites/lice, when, and how you worm them, how often, and how many treats they get are all important information in assessing the best route to go.
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Hi yes I know why they ask. And yes they did want to know my address they ask state and county and I did say all that stuff. They live in medium barn bought last year from criagslist didn't came with Windows dont know how to make window got 27 chickens all different breeds and size and ages mix breeds too run area s big I keep barn clean with wood shavings and hay for nesting boxes I just feed them layer feed sometimes I switch foods cuz sometimes there out of the food I need some ppl feed there roosters layer feed and hens. I feed veggies too I never use have problems in till now. I had a hen lived up to 10 years once. I don't deworm them. I have old hens too that stop laying I think its old age. Ppl that I know don't deworm them chickens either
 
getaclue said:
Ok, something that keeps nagging at me....water. Yes, it freezes over. You mentioned how you have the rubber shallower type pan for water, and you can tip it to get the ice out. This could be most of your problem. Not the pan per se, but that you're not keeping it dumped often enough so the water is liquid most of the time. They're not getting enough water, it's messing up their kidney function, and causing gout, or at the very least, aggravating the gout. There are several examples of home made wooden boxes, with light bulbs in them, that keep the shallow pans warm enough they don't ice up. Others use a heating element in their buckets to keep the water in its liquid state. There are dog dishes that have this feature too, that work well for many.
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Yes I do keep water clean and its deep dish and will never use heated water bowls cuz catch on fire I herd
 

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