Need help with breed ID

[Iguanahunter]

Hi, I have a rooster and four hens that I have absolutely no clue about their breed. They are in my grandfather's flock, along with some standard laying breeds. They are about half the size of the layers, and are very fast and agile birds, easily flying over fences in

to the forest to feed before returning to roost in the ceiling (they have a large enclosure where all the others sleep but they don't go in other than to lay). I have included pictures of the roo and one hen. They are also petite but full-bodied birds, like a pheasant in size, with meat that resembles quail. The brown hen is a layer, in the close up picture.

 

[Gray Farms]

Crossbreds. If I had to guess they are Wyandotte x Game mixes, as they both appear to be rose combed.

 

[Iguanahunter]

I don't think they have wyandotte in them, they are much smaller and more compact, plus the feathers don't line up. Thanks anyway, they do have some game bird to them.

 

[Gray Farms]

That rooster has a rose comb and Wyandotte is by far the most common rose comb breed. That is why I mentioned them being Wyandotte mixes. There are other rose comb breeds of course that are much less common such as rose combed Leghorns and Rhode Island Whites. But as someone once told me "when you hoof beats think horses not zebras". Mixing breeds changes the shape as well. Mixing a heavy breed with a lighter one will make something in the middle.

Also I don't understand what you mean by "feathers don't line up"?

 

[Iguanahunter]

Sorry to sound confusing, but what I meant was that they do not have the patterns of the wyandotte and they lay white, not brown, eggs, plus the flock has never had wyandotte in it since they are impossible to find in the Island. These birds are similar in color to old english breeds, but without the long tail.

 

[Gray Farms]

Sounds like we need some flock history. Location for starters "you say island". Also mixed birds will make mixed patterns and may not match any known pattern.

 

[Iguanahunter]

Puerto Rico, and I have two flocks, one that has large laying and dual purpose breeds and the flock that he has, which is him, his four ladies and a turken that is twice his size that joined him this year. His flock does not cross with the other in terms of breeding, they only sleep close to each other.

 

[Gray Farms]

Ok, thank you. You've got some very nice a beautiful crossbreds then. And they are likely mostly game breed derived.

 

[drumstick diva]

x2 Gray Farms

 

[JedJackson]

Very pretty crosses. Definitely plenty of gamefowl blood. The rose combs could come from anywhere, even bantams somewhere up in their ancestry. I was thinking Hamburgs but you probably won't ever know for sure.