Need help with crop/ from sweden

[Madde]

No problem with your English. You have a much better handle on it and are able to express yourself very well, much better than a lot of Americans that have supposedly learned English since birth.

The corn coming out whole in the stool may be a sign of not enough grit in the gizzard. That is where most of the digestion of food takes place in a chicken. If the gizzard slows down, it can affect the crop emptying. If the crop contents sit too long, they ferment, causing a yeast condition and sour crop.

Grit is small sharp edged gravel that chickens pick up off the ground and swallow. Do your chickens have access to anything like that? It should be around half a centimeter in diameter, give or take. In the US we can buy sacks of it from a feed store.

Giving this chicken grit should help her crop empty the rest of the way. If not, continue the parafin. You could also add a teaspoon of molasses to her food or water. That can help stimulate the gizzard to digest and push out the rest of contents. With that, the crop should then empty.

thank you so much for the answer !!
they can go free during the day so then they should find grit but I have grit in their yard also just because.
but what confuses me a little here is that it is a girl who is knowledgeable with chickens that I have been in contact with and she says ABSOLUTELY NOT GRIT NOW, and that grit should only be used when they are allowed to eat whole grains.
she said giving my hen grit now would only hurt her (she explained her crop as a sore wound and grit would only hurt her crop.

Ingalill (the hen) is the only one of my herd who has loose stools and has had it for so long, and she is the only one who poops out undigested food ..
just want to inform that my hens in adulthood had a hard hit coccidiosis and have become healthy with the help of baycox, and I think that Ingalill's intestines were damaged by it and therefore still loose in the stomach (?)

where I live, there is no veterinarian who is at all chicken knowledgeable and I literally had to threaten the district veterinarian to report them if they did not prescribe medicine for my chickens haha.

but do you think I should add grit to her?

 

[Madde]

Hi Madde, welcome to BYC.
Don’t worry about you're chicken. It seems to go in the right direction.

I always give grit mix in a separate bowl (smal sharp stones + oyster shells) and never had a crop problem with any of my chickens.

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thanks so much!
this morning when I felt her crop it was not much smaller than yesterday but it is still getting smaller, but now it has been 5 days ..

is it normal that it goes so slowly?
she also does not want to eat properly, preferably chopped corn and peeled cucumber in small pieces. I drip on her oil on it.
she has access to almost all the food I could fit in her cage (soft food of course and dried mealworm)

she drinks well but I am breaking down on the inside of this stress and fear of why she is not getting well and why she is not eating properly, she is usually a real food wreck.

 

[Madde]

No problem with your English. You have a much better handle on it and are able to express yourself very well, much better than a lot of Americans that have supposedly learned English since birth.

The corn coming out whole in the stool may be a sign of not enough grit in the gizzard. That is where most of the digestion of food takes place in a chicken. If the gizzard slows down, it can affect the crop emptying. If the crop contents sit too long, they ferment, causing a yeast condition and sour crop.

Grit is small sharp edged gravel that chickens pick up off the ground and swallow. Do your chickens have access to anything like that? It should be around half a centimeter in diameter, give or take. In the US we can buy sacks of it from a feed store.

Giving this chicken grit should help her crop empty the rest of the way. If not, continue the parafin. You could also add a teaspoon of molasses to her food or water. That can help stimulate the gizzard to digest and push out the rest of contents. With that, the crop should then empty.

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is this the same as what you can buy?
that was the only thing I found.
they have access to seashells in the hen house, but she does not have access to any of it now that I have been told to only give her soft food.

 

[BDutch]

This is how I think/would deal with the situation:
I would just wait and see now and not try to rescue her if she is too damaged inside to get better.

I have learned that chickens know what they can eat (in general). Give good chicken feed but not spoil them with luxury food like mealworms or human food that is to salty or sweetened. If you offer grit in a bowl chickens eat it if they need it. Chickens who free range and eat grasses need grit too.

Probably its best not to attach too much with chickens. I love my chickens too but some chickens won’t get old. Diseases, parasites and predators are a common treats for a long chicken life.

I do try to keep my chickens healthy and free from parasites. But if they get sick I won’t give antibiotics. In the long run it’s often not a good solution to give antibiotics (and its certainly not good for human health care). Survival of the fittest is quit a good way to deal with weak chickens for maintaining a healthy flock.

If I have a single chicken with undefined health problems I take her apart if I am afraid its contagious or else I just wait and see.

 

[Perris]

Paraffin in lieu of coconut oil?

paraffin is recommended in old poultry handbooks, so I think it is more likely the trad remedy, before coconut oil was available here. (I don't know if either works or is better than the other.)

I think parafin is a European generic term for cooking oil

Not in the UK. Paraffin is heating oil - but there is a form sold for consumption by humans, again traditional remedies.

 

[BDutch]

Blandat hönsgrus
Translated description with google:
Mixed chicken gravel
Give your chickens something to bite!
Chickens don't have teeth, so to absorb all the goodness from their food they need gravel. And not just any gravel, hard small flints with a diameter of 3-5 mm are best. This practical bag with mixed stone and gravel also contains soluble calcium (in the form of oysters and other shellfish), which allows your chickens to lay robust eggs. The bag is enough for a few months for two chickens, add a handful to the feed once a week.

 

[Madde]

I think parafin is a European generic term for cooking oil. But I do prefer coconut oil.

Blandat hönsgrus
Translated description with google:
Mixed chicken gravel
Give your chickens something to bite!
Chickens don't have teeth, so to absorb all the goodness from their food they need gravel. And not just any gravel, hard small flints with a diameter of 3-5 mm are best. This practical bag with mixed stone and gravel also contains soluble calcium (in the form of oysters and other shellfish), which allows your chickens to lay robust eggs. The bag is enough for a few months for two chickens, add a handful to the feed once a week.

Okay, then I have to send for it and it's a while until it arrives.
I have small stones that I could take in to the hen, but she does not even want to eat her usual pellets but prefers soaked pellets.

but do you think I should give her gravel now?
just thinking so as not to make her crop more constipated or hurt in any other way?
I completely agree with the notes that chickens must eat gravel and they do too and have access to it, but that's just the kind I got myself from a pile of gravel (it's very small pieces of gravel)

 

[Madde]

this gravel my chickens have available in their yard.
are they good or should they be bigger?

 

[Perris]

that's too big to serve as grit.

 

[Perris]

have you tried fermenting her feed?