Need help with destructive GP Long

[Brindlebtch]

Overhead trolley will work if you must. But make sure you get plastic covered cable so he can't chew through it.

You need to walk him really early in the morning when the temp is at its coolest, like at dawn. I got up for years and years before dawn to walk my dogs a mile before I started getting ready to go to work, so I know its possible and I know you can do it. It doesn't matter whether he wants to or not, he needs to walk.

He obviously has more energy than you think if you have to "chase him down" when he gets out the gate. If he has enough energy to run away from you he has enough energy to walk a mile.

 

[ducks4you]

I agree with all of the training suggestions above. Let me share a chew toy that I LOVE, and 3 of my dogs have worn out. It's the Nylabone Double Action Chew
http://www.petmountain.com/product/dog-chew-toys/504833/nylabone-nylabone-double-action-chew.html
I know that they've been posting articles online about avoiding Nylabones, but one of my dogs, Pygma is a BIG chewer. (She's gonna be 2 yrs old in November and is nearing 70 pounds.) I have JUST started to let both of my dogs loose in the house when I'm gone because Pyg would find A N Y T H I N G that smelled like me and chew it up, making a big mess for me to clean up when I got home.

I am going to have to buy bone #5, because after 2 years of constant, everyday chewing both dogs chew the ends off of these. Pyg avoids shoes, furniture and other stuff in favor of this bone. We trip over them--there are currently 3 in the house--and when we put them away in the "toybox", a cat coach that sits in the corner of the living room, Pyg finds them and pulls them out. I bought the first one because one of my local feed stores suggested it. THEIR feedback was that every customer's dog that got one, absolutely loved it. It was quite an endorsement. My other dog, Rose, loves 'em, too, but she's not as bigger a chewer as his "sister." (They're not related.) My other dog has passed on, but she (105 pounds) loved the bone, too.

 

[Luna_Chick66]

what Redyre said.

 

[Redyre Rotties]

With all due respect, your post is filled with excuses, which will not help the puppy. Neither will developing a defensive attitude when a person misses a detail in a very long post.

The puppy must be managed in a way so that really the only possible thing is for him to be right. You have the primate brain, so you must use that to your advantage.

Give him the bones, etc, in the crate, or get an exercise pen and give them there.

Confine him and keep things put away so that they are out of his reach.

Walk him very early when it is still cool, and I would not let him make the decisions as to where or how far you go, but do keep it within reason. If he wants to stop at the end of the road, then go twice that far the first day and increase the distance gradually.

Put him away when it is time to exercise the other dog. It is not fair to expect a puppy not to behave like a puppy.

There are solutions to your issues, but you have to find them and use them!

 

[gritsar]

Puppies are alot of work. I'm disabled, but I walk our pup twice a day no matter how bad I feel. While I'm walking I keep telling myself that the exercise is good for me too.
If I know the cows aren't around I let him track too, something he really enjoys.
IMO, making the effort to train them right is alot easier than dealing with the frustration of problems you'll have if you don't.
We had our puppy with us when we went to to the PD last night. We take him everywhere with us, with the exception of the grocery store. Two of my DH's fellow officers also have puppies; one an 5 month old Husky and one a 8 mo. old lab. These guys were amazed at how well behaved our pup is compared to theirs. Well DUH! I keep our pup with me almost non-stop. I exercise both his body and his mind. Theirs are fenced in their backyards, learning only what they teach themselves.

 

[ducks4you]

Redyre Rotties, I'm coming to YOU for all of my dog advice.

 

[Redyre Rotties]

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Hey, Ducks, I'm still learning. I always will be. To paraphrase a good friend, I know more than some, less than others, and it will likely always be that way.

I have had so many good people take the time to help me, instruct me, correct me, and shoot me down sometimes when I get too big for my britches, I like to think that I am respecting them, and what they did for me, by passing a little of it on when I can.

 

[JupiterFarmer]

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It was a paragraph about him running out the gate and why we're scared of him running off. That's why I got defensive. I must admit a temper though

We've had a dog stolen from this current house because he was a houdini always finding somplace new to dig or slip under and always covering them when we found them. We found him like five miles away running towards where we live and years before that a husky was stolen when we left her with a friend while we moved. So keeping our dogs at home is something we take serious because we don't want them to get stolen

He's fifty pounds now and I can't really drag him or force him to play when he just lays down and completely ignores me.

He tries to lay down on walks to though its only .6 mi according to google after .4, I'm guessing, we have to grab his collar and lift his neck up high to get him to keep walking to get him home. Which is a fight because he just wants to go lay in a flooded ditch for 20mins, no amount of encouragement makes him wanna follow without being dragged to.

He didn't always do this though

Even when it isn't hot, when we used to go longer to do the whole block but doing that has him drooling to the point he's like foaming not badly? But its bubbly drool and a lot of it even though he isn't a drool even when its cloudy and not hot. That's why we kinda gave up on walking him.

Is he just being stubborn or is that kind foaming action a bad sign? He did it that time we just when to the end of the block and back?

So I think crate would be a noise problem... We can't even close off the garage without him yowling to be allowed in if he sees us close it. Maybe a kennel would be a better fit?

How big of an enclosure should he get? He yowled the entire time he was on lead even if he had about 3 gallons of water he could sit in and a whole large dog bowl of water for him to drink and the lead was about 13 or 14 ft long which he was on only when we weren't outside with him during the day. Oh and several shady hidey spots.

How long can we kennel him with a bone, I'm away in classes during the day sometimes able to come home on days I have a big gap. Mom sleeps during the day, only waking up to give the chooks food and immediately get to bed again or go out to run errands.

We like him to roam but maybe at puppy stage him can only do it with supervision? Which is only availible after two in the afternoon pretty much. He doesn't get into much over night though

 

[DuckyBoys]

He is just being a GP. My GP was the same way and they like to be busy at night, and if your GP is anything like mine, they have strong opinions on how life is to be lived - typically that means they rule the yard and do as they please in exchange for their guarding duty.

He will grow out of it, and don't let strangers tell you your dog is bored. You know if he is bored or not and can take the appropriate steps if that is the case. But to me, he sounds like a puppy and as with any puppy, they need to learn their lessons in their own time. My GP is very standoffish. He wants to do things his way and as an outside dog, that includes patrolling. I don't know how much land you have, but it can never be anough for a GP, but hey - you don't need to feel guilty about that. It is what it is, end of story.

I got my GP to keep my giant schnauzer company - so maybe your big guy needs another big guy! My big boys play all rough and rowdy and they have a ball together. Both of which are 100% outside dogs and they are always doing something when they are awake - most of the time that invovles barking, which you can't fault a GP for - it is their nature. Especially at night.

And just FYI - my GP refuses to walk on a leash too. He won't wear a collar and is highly resistant to training. Shuts down completely. He's not a bad dog by any means, in fact he's pretty low maintenance as long as the fence is strong. Good fences make good GP's.

And if he gets thorugh our gate we have to get the car to get him home! LOL...we follow him for a few m,iles then open th door and he jumps in...it's a big game to him.

Your pup sounds 100% normal, just hang in there and he will settle down in a few years...

 

[Brindlebtch]

I guess I'm used to being around obedience and agility Great Pyrs.