Hi, I have had a great hatch rate with my havo bator and the auto egg turner. So great I got another to do even more eggs and this one does not have a turner. I will be getting another soon when i get a bit more money. I have seen on here about using the egg cartons and tilting the bator.. and or to put PVC pipe under the egg carton and tilt the carton. I don't want to open the lid.. so what is the best way to do this. Mine is a forced air bator. Should I tilt from side to side if I do the whole bator or should I tilt every corner? Or should I tile the egg cartons from one side then turn them up right then on there side again.. or just side to side? Any info would be GREAT!!