Need to tell neighbor about pending chick free range date...

ChickieNikki

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I have a neighbor with 5 labs. I think only 1 is out during the day, and that one is so old, I've never seen it go faster than a lazy stroll pace--but it's not leashed. The others are younger, and one is pretty wild and doesn't come when called. In 4 years, only one has ever come to our yard, and only 10' over the property line, and only twice. It is a very submissive dog--lay down at DH's feet with all 4 paws up and wouldn't get up--had to literally be dragged home! They don't have an invisible fence, just dogs that know the boundary, it seems. And it's probably 200 yds between our detached garage and their house.

So, the chickens will range on the other side of our garage. The dogs won't see them from where they play at all, and until the chickens are bigger, we will range them just right behind the garage. However, the neighbors don't know about the chickens (they can't see the coop from their house b/c of the garage).

We're allowed the chickens, and there is no limit to how many, roosters OK too. But in 4 years, we've spoken to this neighbor fewer than 5 times. Not for any reason, they just keep to themselves. And even though they can't stop me from having them, I'm trying to make this experience great for the whole neighborhood, where we will be the only chicken owners, and for most of the neighbors, their only experience with someone who keeps chickens. I had several upset neighbors when I told those present at last years HOA meeting, but since there's nothing they can do, I only want them to see that I can have a pretty coop, and that these birds will not attract coyotes that will subsequently kill the neighborhood children.

All other nearby neighbors already know, and they have kids, so their kids have seen the chickies and it's been really fun. With the remaining couple, DH will probably be willing to make the visit, but if it's up to me, I stink at that stuff--and I don't want to come across like I'm apologizing for putting a temptation so close to what amounts to 5 bird dogs. I want them to get that I expect their dogs to keep away, despite the possibility that they will be wanting to come around more (I assume the dogs will smell and hear the birds and come a-runnin'). Any suggestions how to be clear without offending? (I know some people spend their entire life being offended by everything that's said to them, but let's assume these people are normal)

I also plan to sit with the birdies when I put them out for the first few weeks to observe the hawk and dog activity at certain times of the day. Thanks for the input!

ETA: They will be fenced with netting, possibly electrified. And thanks for your responses--everything you have said is very helpful. I have always wondered how far they would actually go if let completely loose--too far, it seems.
 
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I think free ranging without having anything around your property like a fence is just asking for trouble. Are you sure you don't want to do a tractor or just keep them in a roomy run. I think this is going to end badly, if not from the neighbors, from a dog who just happens to smell the chickens.
 
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I agree with you on this one. Sounds like you really need to have a fenced area for your chicks.
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If you want to guarentee your birds' safety you'll have to be the one to build a fence to keep the dogs away. Yes, it's the dogs' owners responsibilty to keep their dogs at home, but it will only be a matter of time before your birds are ranging further afield and the dogs discover them.
 
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I'm sorry, I should have mentioned, we will have 4' netting around the run. It is electrifiable, but we are not wanting to electrify it because we have young kids (still researching on that decision). Also considering a Pyr (well, I am but DH is flat against one more creature). I keep hearing that net fencing will not stop a racing lab, for example. I expect a Pyr would, as would an electric shock.

Weighing all the options right now. But no, they won't be loose--they'll have a fenced run. Thanks, though--pointing these things out educates all of us. That's why I'm here!
 
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I agree. My son wanted to let our chicks free-range, so I had to explain that chickens don't know boundaries and are liable to end up in anyone's yard, so they're better off, and safer, in their run. Better safe than sorry, I say...
 
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As per researching the electric netting, our almost 4 yr old has been shocked many times, by a very powerful fence. It doesn't kill them, they don't like it, but she's a healthy (fence respecting) kinda kid
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I'd electrify it straight off the bat - it will nip things in the bud before anything has a chance to start. One zap and the Labs will decide the whole thing is no fun and not worth it. As for children, hm... See what the manufacturer recommends... I remember touching hot fences when I was a little kid on dares from my big Bro, and only twitch a little bit as an adult
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FUNNY STUFF! I touched an electrified cattle fence when I was about 8...popped my feet right up off the ground and slammed my jaws together. Too "cool" to even mention it to anyone at the time...the only damage it did was apparently jarred my brain such that now I have the need to surround myself by critters (see siggy for details)...
 
If the chickens are kept on their property with netting you are living up to your responsibility by keeping them on your property. If you don't have a large yard with a high strong fence, I wouldn't recommend a pyr because it will roam and take over the neighborhood.

As far as the neighbors go, make sure you warn them because of the possible dog issue. Just knock on the door and say, "I just wanted to let you know that the chickens are going to be out in the yard. I will make sure that they stay in my yard. I don't know how your dogs will react so you might need to keep an eye out for them. Many dogs tend to see chickens as chew toys, and I would like everybody's pets to be safe. Thanks."

If the dogs aren't used to being around poultry, they will be trouble without a fence or other restraint. The old one will be interested in the chickens too. Even a one eyed, deaf, toothless, arthritic, three-legged dog will come to life and chase a chicken if given the chance. It is ultimately the dog owner's responsibility to keep his dogs in his yard and you responsibility to keep your chickens in your yard. If his dogs start crossing the line, he will have to address that.
 

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