Neighbor hates my chickens- will she do them harm?

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You need to be careful. We live way out in the country, were the first people to live out here and named the dead end gravel road we live on, and my family started raising goats. Well, when some neighbors moved out here, even though we're spaced well far apart, they decided they didn't like the goats and made a new neighborhood law that nobody could keep goats anymore. So guess what? They had to get rid of them. Now nobody can own goats here, ever. Even though part of the reason my parents moved out here in the first place was for a place to farm. Doesn't seem fair to me.

If I were you, I'd be really careful about making it look like everything is under control and there is no problem. I agree with the above poster that you should show her this thread. Try to work out your issues peacefully. Maybe invite her over for tea and discuss your differences calmly. Apologize for past disagreements and let her know you want to come to a compromise. Tell her how much Spock means to you. Speak honestly. Try to make peace. I would put the collar on Spock right now, keep him inside for a while until things cool down, and then let them forget all about it and then maybe you can sneak him outside without it causing an issue. Once the dispute is resolved and she has nothing to complain about anymore, it will blow over. Hopefully then the neighborhood and court will take your side when they see how hard you are trying to keep him from bothering anybody and that he isn't doing any harm.

If you don't, but give the impression that you are deliberately neglecting trying to get along with your neighbors, they may not only decide that you can't keep Spock but may pass some new law to give you more grief and you might have to get rid of your chickens all together. Better not to give them any reason to feel that your property is a nuisance in any way. Show everybody that it's not doing any harm to keep your rooster. You don't want things to escalate, you want to come to a solution. Because if this war goes on, unfortunately she will win. She has the law on her side. The court doesn't rule in your favor out of pity or because she is mean. The court's only purpose is to uphold the law. They determine who is keeping the law, not who is right or wrong. The only way you will win is if everybody turns a blind eye and decides to overlook the rule you broke. As long as somebody is there to complain, though, that will never happen. You need to remove the threat to your rooster, and the only way you can do that is remove the reason for the complaint. You can't win this one. You can only try to reduce the friction between the two of you and try to appease her enough so she drops it. If you can find a way to get away with keeping him without anybody noticing, do it.


Well, that's my opinion, anyway. Think about it. Might be your last chance to redeem the situation.
 
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With the fence construction under way, now is the time to really start collecting evidence of her outrageous behavior. She is going to be amped up about the fence and try some shady stuff. I have been with you on this thread since the beginning and one thing that is obvious about your neighbor is that she MUST have control. Record EVERYTHING!! Video/audio is the best evidence you can use to show her mental instability. Even if the game cam is in place, grab your phone or camera and document everything! Keep a journal. Document everything! Even simple seeming stuff, like, today I found my neighbor standing on the property line staring at my pasture. If you see and or find that she has messed in any way with your new fencing CALL THE POLICE, make a report!!! This is important, never engage her, never speak to her from here on out.

I know you love Spock, I get that, really!! But take a step back and a deep breath and ask yourself, will this nightmare end if Spock isnt here? Who's to say the first time your girls get excited and start squawking she doesn't decide that's too loud for her? Or when you get your goats and the first time your late for the evening meal and they start calling for you? And with the town board trying to appease her, they have actually empowered her, in her own mind.

The reason they took down their own fence because she couldn't handle not being able to see what was going on at your house, plain and simple. So now your fence is going up and its going to drive her even more batty!
 
First, like others have said, I'd have tried to end this as well. Second, NO ONE can "kick you out of Texas". You left because you didn't have the option of staying where you were and being so inconsiderate. You said yourself, "If we hadn't broken the law, though, they would never have had the power to kick me out". There you have it. The OP didn't break the law. She has a loony neighbor with control issues.
Agreed, until she can exhaust all options ( knowing for a fact with the help of someone who knows the law) she is breaking the law, her other neighbors have no problem with this one rooster and she isn't being inconsiderate to even the loony neighbor. Getting her boy a collar will solve this issue but I am sure even were she to get rid of the roo the loony neighbor would have an issue with something else..
 
I don't think the collar will work. If the crowing was the issue, then yes, stopping the crowing would work. But that's not the issue, and the neighbor will complain about Spock whether he crows or not.
 
I don't think the collar will work. If the crowing was the issue, then yes, stopping the crowing would work. But that's not the issue, and the neighbor will complain about Spock whether he crows or not.

Not if she can't see him (once the fence is up). How will she know he is still there if the collar stops the crowing? Plus many non-chicken people can't tell chickens apart, and it sure doesn't seem like crazy lady will have the mental faculties to do so.
 
This is not about crowing. It's about her not having control over others. As others have said, over do it with keeping records, video, attempts you have made to accomodate, etc. I would not invite her to tea; she has no concern for anyone other than herself. One suggestion, tho, is to gather names of your supporters. If you do go in front of the zoning board, you can get them to stand up for you--numbers speak volumes. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and the zoning board wouldn't be looking at you if not for the squeaky wheel. Go online and see who has chickens in your area so they can send folks to stand with you and fight--there are always those wanting to 'have a few hens' and the rules won't let them, they are usually eager to stand up because we're all in it together. Get together some research about how 'country sounds' are soothing and great for mental health, the health benefits of working outdoors with pets/livestock, maybe even get your dr to say this is a 'service' animal and not subject to this rule. You would be surprised at what all you can do to resist this. The rules/zoning ordinances are put in place because someone wanted to control another person's actions; you can get the rules changed.
 
Agreed, until she can exhaust all options ( knowing for a fact with the help of someone who knows the law) she is breaking the law, her other neighbors have no problem with this one rooster and she isn't being inconsiderate to even the loony neighbor. Getting her boy a collar will solve this issue but I am sure even were she to get rid of the roo the loony neighbor would have an issue with something else..
The main reason people pass laws like the one's used to "kick her out of TX" is the actions she described that lead up to her being removed from the development. Those laws were put in place to ensure that the community doesn't have to live with neighbors who drive them crazy. Problem is, the OP has to fight for her rights because of these laws originally designed to help people like her.
 
maybe even get your dr to say this is a 'service' animal and not subject to this rule.  You would be surprised at what all you can do to resist this.  The rules/zoning ordinances are put in place because someone wanted to control another person's actions; you can get the rules changed.


FYI- A Service Animal is a specific, legal, term. According to Federal law it's either a dog or in rare cases a mini horse. If you want to push the buttons of a Service Dog user claim access rights under ADA for an ESA!

An Emotional Support Animal can be any species, there are Federal laws that cover them- however the relevant laws are in Sec 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, FHAA(Fair Housing Act Amendment) and ACAA (Air Carrier Access Act) and NOT in ADA. FHAA and ACAA cover housing and flying. State laws may give more rights but cannot give less than Federal Law. Here's a FAQ on Emotional Support Animals. In your case I think Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 would be most relevant. http://www.animallaw.info/articles/qvusemotionalsupportFAQ.htm

There are some requirements to ESAs to be protected. It's supposed to be more than your doctor writing a note because of trouble sleeping. The person MUST have a disabling condition and the animal MUST help with the condition. Training is not required but noise, odors, etc can make a difference with accomodation.

Courts have held that emotional distress expected to occur if a person is forced to given up an animal will not support a claim that a reasonable accommodation must be made

Yes, it pushed my buttons ;) . But only slightly.
 
Get some more popcorn out! The fence construction began exactly 40 feet 2 inches from the road....and 30 feet 2 inches from the front property line (town has an easement of 10 ft to widen the road if they want to). This is exactly were the town said we had to place it + 2 inches...about 6 inches closer to the road that her fence. After the fence people left I heard Crazy Lady yelling. Then I heard the sound of something being pounded into the ground...sounded like stakes. DH went out to take a look. Two signs had been placed near the end of her driveway that read the following, "Caution Handicapped Person Sight View Blocked (On premises!)" The "On premises" is in tiny little letters. I think the signs are ???..a little nuts! And they both say exactly the same thing!

Pictures below....The fence I believe will completely cover theirs. It is quite solid and I believe will help with noise!






 
I take it the newer shorter section of wooden fence is your new fence, as is the welded wire.....and the long wooden fence is hers?

How far from her wooden fence is yours? Will you have to mow between them?

Stay calm, breathe deeply, good luck.
 
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