Nevadans?

Okay Sheryl, here's the info I typed up for you.

First let me say that I have no idea what caused your liver damage and I am not judging you for it at all. There are some things in the paragraphs that follow, that might make you think I’m trying to say what caused it. This is merely an excerpt from a book… take it as such… if the cause doesn’t apply to you, perhaps the cure can still help.



Special Problems in severe liver damage

“Often during liver disease, quarts of liquid accumulate in the abdominal cavity, a condition known as ascites. In this case the injured liver is unable to produce enzymes needed to inactivate a urine-controlling (antidiuretic) hormone, and too little urine is formed. When 2 tablespoons of nutritional yeast have been given at each meal to patients with ascites, rapid recovery occurred. A few times I have been consulted by people who accumulated liquid so rapidly that for months their abdomens had been tapped frequently and the liquid removed; yet after the diet was made adequate, the condition was corrected within a few days.

When the severe stress of liver damage has been so prolonged that ascites occurs, sodium is rapidly lost in the urine; hence a salt-free diet, which is usually recommended, often induces weakness, muscle cramps, lassitude, and low blood pressure. In most cases, instead of salt being withdrawn, salty foods should be eaten. If too much salt is retained, water is held uniformly in all tissues, and not in a localized area.

During severe liver damage, large amounts of amino acids are lost in the urine at the very time quantities of protein are needed for repair. Yet often a high-protein diet cannot be given because toxic quantities of ammonia accumulate in the blood. This ammonia comes from the breakdown of body proteins, accelerated by the stress of the disease, and from the intestine, where it is liberated by bacteria living on undigested protein. Ammonia formed within the body is normally changed to harmless urea by enzymes, provided vitamin B6 and magnesium are adequate, but it accumulates when either is lacking. It can be markedly decreased by an antistress diet, which prevents such unnecessary break down of body protein. The formation of ammonia from undigested proteins can be stopped by taking yogurt or acidophilus milk, digestive enzymes, lecithin, hydrochloric acid, and small, frequent meals.”

Recovery from Liver damage

“As with animals, people with damaged livers or even cirrhosis can recover rapidly, provided their diets are markedly improved. In one study of 102 persons who had lived largely on refined carbohydrates and were grossly deficient in protein, fatty livers caused mild to severe abdominal pain, enlargement of the organ, and tenderness to the touch. Weekly biopsies and numerous tests showed that after their diets were made high in protein and supplemented with cholin, methionine, and vitamin B12, even the worst cases had recovered within six weeks. Improvement is usually much faster when lecithin is given as a source of cholin rather than the vitamin itself, which at times can be destroyed by certain intestinal bacteria.

In a study of 68 people seriously ill with cirrhosis, a high-protein diet supplemented with a multivitamin capsule and 2 tablespoons of nutritional yeast at each meal induced “rapid recoveries” in all, including the most advanced casees. In another group of patients with cirrhosis, the severest scarring was replaced by normal tissue within a few months after the diet was made adequate; and as long as such a diet was adhered to, there was no return of liver damage.

When persons with cirrhosis have been given 10 grams each of cholin and methionine daily but the general diet was not improved, biopsies still showed vast areas of dead cells and extensive scarring months later. If a completely adequate diet is carefully followed, cirrhosis is remarkably reversible, but an irreparable stage is reached if such steps are not taken promptly.

Liver damage caused by various industrial poisons – benzene, nitrobenzene, leaded gasoline, and numerous hydrocarbons – has been corrected by diets high in protein and vitamin C; and damage from such chemicals was found to be greatest when these nutrients were undersupplied. High-protein diets, used as a preventive measure, have also reduced the toxicity of many poisons. Injury to the liver brought on by inhaling carbon tetrachloride has likewise been corrected by an adequate diet. Damage from toxic drugs usually goes untreated; though the drugs may be discontinued, all nutrients which help regenerate the liver should be simultaneously increased.

I can find no medical reports of patients with liver disease having received vitamin E, though they have abnormally small amounts of this vitamin in their blood. Hospital diets given to patients with cirrhosis have been found to supply daily only 17 milligrams of vitamin E and autopsies on persons who died of cirrhosis reveal depositions of the brown pigment characteristic of severe vitamin E deficiency. In cirrhosis, the liver becomes so full of scars that circulation is impaired and hemorrhaging is a frequent cause of death. As in other injuries, the massive scarring forms after damage has been done. Yet, if generously supplied, vitamin E would not only help to prevent scarring but could decrease the need for oxygen and thus keep many cells from dying when swelling and inflammation impair circulation.

During exposure to toxic substances, whether in spraying the garden, taking medication, or working with industrial poisons, cholin, vitamins C and E, and protein, particularly the sulfur-containing amino acids, should be immediately increased; and during sober periods, alcoholics, who are especially subject to cirrhosis, should try to obtain these nutrients.”
 
I found this info about pumpkin seeds for wormers on another thread...

"The season is upon us so here is the organic worming procedure/recipe I use and I have never had any worms or a problem with them that I know of. I have never used any de-wormer medicines and have some very healthy 4 year old hens that show no signs of slowing down. in addition to doing this treatment twice a year (as soon as pumpkins are available and then again in Dec with pumpkins I saved) I give the girls raw buttermilk from my co-op about once a month or so. This has been mentioned before in BYC but I figured it would not hurt to mention it again.


I use raw buttermilk like I said from my co-op and organic pumpkins I grow myself but you can use the stuff in the store as well. No need to waste the pumpkin either just use the seeds from the one you are carving for Halloween although you may need several if you have a large or multiple flocks.

This treatment is a 3 day process. You will need fresh pumpkins, buttermilk, bran, regular milk


Day 1 remove all feed (leaving water) by noon so that chickens have nothing to eat and must fast (they will not be happy about this)


Day 2 Cut pumpkin like you are making a jack-o-lantern and scoop out all of the seeds (it is fine to have the stringy stuff as well. put in a blender with buttermilk and blend at high speed so that it becomes a wet mash of pulverized seeds and buttermilk.

feed this as the only feed after a day of fasting to all chickens (make sure there is enough for them all to fill up on it during the day) they will love it ad just might forgive you for starving them the day before.


Day 3 Now make a mash of bran flakes and regular milk (again I use raw cows milk since that's what we drink, and you should too ) make sure they have enough of this all day as well.

Feed this mash to the birds and stay away from their rear end as there will be some wet yucky poo happening now.

Day 4 back to regular feed as usual with some DE and ACV in water ETA real yogurt as well will put back the good bacteria although if you use raw milk it will be in there as well.


Sounds weird I am sure but here is why you do this. The pumpkin seeds have a natural chemical in them that paralyze the worms and parasites in the birds intestines. The pumpkin seeds must be raw and chopped up in order to work. the buttermilk is a natural de-wormer of sorts not sure of the exact reason for it though. Anyway the worms get paralyzed and the next day the bran and milk act as a laxative expelling them from the bird. I have never seen any in the poo but since I don't have a problem with worms I don't really expect to, but I have spoken to people who have seen the worms be expelled when they did it and looked at the feces afterwards.

Hope this is helpful to those wanting an organic natural approach to worming."

I'm thinking I will probably follow this woman's advice, only because we have a ton of flies right now. Just as soon as halloween is over and the pumpkins are on sale.
 
Just a reminder... When we have a long post and it is directed at one person only it is best to do this via pm instead.

OK we still need NV info for breeders, feed stores, events, etc. Post your info or any one else's that you would like to have accessible on here and I'll get those done.

Ron would you like to post the Washoe Tree place? Missy I would love some gardening links too. :)
 
Just a reminder... When we have a long post and it is directed at one person only it is best to do this via pm instead.

OK we still need NV info for breeders, feed stores, events, etc. Post your info or any one else's that you would like to have accessible on here and I'll get those done.

Ron would you like to post the Washoe Tree place? Missy I would love some gardening links too. :)

Cool, I'll get on that after the kids are put to bed.
 
Just a reminder... When we have a long post and it is directed at one person only it is best to do this via pm instead.

OK we still need NV info for breeders, feed stores, events, etc. Post your info or any one else's that you would like to have accessible on here and I'll get those done.

Ron would you like to post the Washoe Tree place? Missy I would love some gardening links too. :)

I would have sent a PM but there were some other people on the thread who expressed an interest in it. Sorry.
 

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