Never Again am I ordering from McMurray

[luvmypets]

Just cause you like them doesn't mean I have to

 

[luvmypets]

How exactly is a bird in your care drowning McMurray's fault?

its not i was just sayin why woulod you send us a bird with a birth defect....Wow i caused alot of confusion....

srry luvmypets

 

[kodster]

The defect may have formed while she was in shipping... perhaps too crowded in the shipping box... I had 8 ducklings come in from Murray McMurray, and they came out of CA... the actual hatchery is located in IA, so this is a sub-division or subcontractor of Murray McMurray. They don't even send out shipping confirmation/tracking if it's ducklings being shipped; however, the hatchery in IA provides all tracking info for the day-old chicks and hatching eggs.

My first order of ducklings coming from Murray McMurray had 4 Jumbo Pekins and 4 Rouens. Two of the Rouens were DOA; then, the 2nd night I had them in their brooder, 2 of the Jumbo Pekins died, through no discernable reason. I suspect that we had some very frigid weather during the time of their shipping, and it affected them. Anyways, I called the hatchery in IA, and they replaced the entire order, for the following week's delivery, and I had them in 2 days from hatch date... they're ALL doing great now. It took the first order 4 days to get to me.

 

[farmin4fun]

At OP,

It really just boils down to expectations. It's always a good idea to educate yourself so you can have reasonable and fair expectations, both for your own emotional state and for those you have expectations of.

From your post, I don't think you realize all the work, fore-thought, and planning put in place by the hatchery, which allows you to easily place an order online and receive your chicks at your front door with minimal casualties, work or inconvenience to you.

The truth is there is always a chance that you will lose a couple chicks when they are shipped, due to all the risks involved. Chicks are quite fragile when born. Too much moisture can kill them. High, low or fluctuating temperatures can kill them. A cool, or damp breeze can kill them. Rough handling by the postal service can kill them. A delay in postal shipping can kill them. Improper handling by the customer can kill them. These hatcheries try to take every precaution they can and still keep their prices reasonable.

Specifically, they have the minimum and maximum shipping order so the chicks can huddle together for warmth and still not get smothered by each other. They also only ship on Tuesdays or Wednesdays in attempt to avoid weekend postal delays, but they cannot foresee and avoid every potential risk. This is why they have refund policies in place, because there will be occasional casualties.

Specifically in regards to birth defects, a hatchery worker cannot take the time to give a full physical to every single one of the thousands of chicks being sent out within hours of the time they hatch. Each chick has about 3 days from time of hatching that they can survive without food or water. If the hatchery does not ship them out and have them on your doorstep within that time, the chicks will likely die. I could go into a lot more detail about all the potential health risks and the processes hatcheries have adopted to minimize them, but it is simply impossible to avoid every risk.

You will have an occasional DOA or birth defect. It is not anyone's fault, or lack of responsibility or integrity. They will send you a replacement or a refund when it happens. Humans are not infallible. These are just simple facts. There's a lot more information online as well if you are interested in looking it up. Meyer hatchery has an informative you tube video link about their process on their home page as well.

I know how disappointing things like this can be, but I hope knowing a few more of the facts will help you have more realistic expectations, and therefore lessen your disappointment a little bit. Best of luck to you!!!

 

[RoostersCrow HensDeliver!]

Very well said Farmin4fun

 

[luvmypets]

At OP,

It really just boils down to expectations. It's always a good idea to educate yourself so you can have reasonable and fair expectations, both for your own emotional state and for those you have expectations of.

From your post, I don't think you realize all the work, fore-thought, and planning put in place by the hatchery, which allows you to easily place an order online and receive your chicks at your front door with minimal casualties, work or inconvenience to you.

The truth is there is always a chance that you will lose a couple chicks when they are shipped, due to all the risks involved. Chicks are quite fragile when born. Too much moisture can kill them. High, low or fluctuating temperatures can kill them. A cool, or damp breeze can kill them. Rough handling by the postal service can kill them. A delay in postal shipping can kill them. Improper handling by the customer can kill them. These hatcheries try to take every precaution they can and still keep their prices reasonable.

Specifically, they have the minimum and maximum shipping order so the chicks can huddle together for warmth and still not get smothered by each other. They also only ship on Tuesdays or Wednesdays in attempt to avoid weekend postal delays, but they cannot foresee and avoid every potential risk. This is why they have refund policies in place, because there will be occasional casualties.

Specifically in regards to birth defects, a hatchery worker cannot take the time to give a full physical to every single one of the thousands of chicks being sent out within hours of the time they hatch. Each chick has about 3 days from time of hatching that they can survive without food or water. If the hatchery does not ship them out and have them on your doorstep within that time, the chicks will likely die. I could go into a lot more detail about all the potential health risks and the processes hatcheries have adopted to minimize them, but it is simply impossible to avoid every risk.

You will have an occasional DOA or birth defect. It is not anyone's fault, or lack of responsibility or integrity. They will send you a replacement or a refund when it happens. Humans are not infallible. These are just simple facts. There's a lot more information online as well if you are interested in looking it up. Meyer hatchery has an informative you tube video link about their process on their home page as well.

I know how disappointing things like this can be, but I hope knowing a few more of the facts will help you have more realistic expectations, and therefore lessen your disappointment a little bit. Best of luck to you!!!

wow that's awesome also thanks for your time...even I couldn't write that much.

 

[ronott1]

wow that's awesome also thanks for your time...even I couldn't write that much.

Last year McMurray was shipping on Friday evenings, which goes against the USPS recommendation for shipping live Animals. Unless they have changed, then they are still killing chickens because of not shipping correctly.


Yes, do not buy chicks from them. Cackle was much better and they ship on a Monday to Wed schedule. Add this to your "research" when you order chicks from a hatchery. Do not get them if they ship over a weekend.

 

[luvmypets]

Last year McMurray was shipping on Friday evenings, which goes against the USPS recommendation for shipping live Animals. Unless they have changed, then they are still killing chickens because of not shipping correctly.


Yes, do not buy chicks from them. Cackle was much better and they ship on a Monday to Wed schedule. Add this to your "research" when you order chicks from a hatchery. Do not get them if they ship over a weekend.

well then thanks ur great help. We were going to order from cackle but they didn't have that many varieties of ducks. Have you ever ordered from ideal...Are they good?

 

[ronott1]

well then thanks ur great help. We were going to order from cackle but they didn't have that many varieties of ducks. Have you ever ordered from ideal...Are they good?

I have not ordered from Ideal but I know of other who have. They do not ship on the weekend so you should do fine with them.

Good luck!

 

[Hedera]

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with them.