Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Tricorn, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. Tricorn

    Tricorn In the Brooder

    Oct 15, 2011
    She just passed. I'm leaving this up because I'd love to head ideas on what the heck it was that killed her.

    It's been one heck of a day, instead of trying to be coherent I just filled out the thingy:

    1) What type of bird , age and weight
    Royal Palm hen, 3 months old, was at average weight at beginning of illness, has lost some weight. Not dramatic, but noticeable.

    2) What is the behaviour, exactly.
    Early: Fluffed feathers, pale head, not keeping up with flock.
    Current: Extreme lethargy. (Lying down, head down) No interest in food/water. Slightly mucous-y feces with occasional yellow urates.

    3) How long has the bird been exhibiting symptoms?
    11 days// 1 day

    4) Are other birds exhibiting the same symptoms?

    5) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.

    6) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
    Sudden onset of cold/wet weather likely caused initial symptoms.

    7) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
    21% protein organic/soy free turkey rations. Egg, mealworms, and well cooked chicken earlier on.

    8) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
    Slightly mucous-y feces with occasional yellow urates.

    9) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
    Showed dramatic improvement on sulmet. Finished antibiotics, was out with flock for one day, was re-quarantined with dramatic onset of new symptoms.

    10 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
    No vets in the area willing to treat, the only medication available is what can be found at TSC or other feed stores. I'll try anything at this point.

    11) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.
    Not much point, sitting with beak on the ground. Leans against wall for support.

    12) Describe the housing/bedding in use
    4x2 cage, straw bedding 'freshened up' 3x day, changed nightly. Water/food available in deep dish bowls. Currently giving a vitamin/electrolyte mix in water.

    It looked like cocci at first, gave sulmet, things came back with a vengence. E-coli? [​IMG]
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2011

  2. Tricorn

    Tricorn In the Brooder

    Oct 15, 2011
    Edited the title, because yes, emergency.

    Pretty sure she's fading as I type. Moved her inside, with a heat lamp. Gave her some of the electrolytes in a dropper. As of now she's down, eyes closed and non responsive.

    I hate not being able to do anything...
  3. HorseFeatherz NV

    HorseFeatherz NV Eggink Chickens

    I am sorry, I have no idea [​IMG]

    I wish I could help. [​IMG]
  4. HorseFeatherz NV

    HorseFeatherz NV Eggink Chickens

    I would do just what you are doing...........get her warm, and some liquids into her. I might even try a soupy gruel to see if I could get some nutrition into her.

    Check her over for lice/mites and any wounds - just in case.

    [​IMG] she perks up and recovers.
  5. Louise's Country Closet

    Louise's Country Closet Songster

    Feb 5, 2010
    Garrison, MN
    I'm not sure if what my suggestion is going to be is actually helpful since it doesn't sound like she's eating or drinking.. but when one of my turkeys came down with this same thing, I put cayenne pepper in EVERYTHING. The food, the water.. and he did get better within just a few days when it looked like he was about to die.

    I'm so sorry, I hope someone can help more [​IMG]
  6. Tricorn

    Tricorn In the Brooder

    Oct 15, 2011
    She died..

    Thanks for the advice though guys, it's good to have ideas for next time. Which will hopefully not happen...

    Go figure, lose two in a day. It never rains but it pours.
  7. HorseFeatherz NV

    HorseFeatherz NV Eggink Chickens

    That stinks............[​IMG]


  8. chickenzoo

    chickenzoo Emu Hugger

    So sorry... Normally with young turkeys I think of 3 things - Coccidia, Black head disease, Worms.

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