New Brahma Group: Blue Partridge x Partridge, Plus Dark

[speckledhen]

Someone on my local FB bird group posted that they just lost most of their flock to someone else's dog. Of course, a bunch of people have jumped in saying that it's never okay to shoot a dog. You know, because it's someone's pet and they 'love' it.

I so badly want to say that if they love it so much they ought to be taking proper care of it, which includes keeping it on their own property where it won't get shot because it killed someone else's animals. If you let your dog run loose and it gets shot, it's no one's fault but your own for not taking proper care of your animal.

Oh, I did say that on a FB group. My chickens are pets and I love them. A hen who has lived to over 10 years old and been safe all her life does not deserve to be torn apart because some dog owner is jerk and can't keep control of one canine. I do all I can to fence out predators, but they can get in anyway, and dogs have if you've read some of my P&P posts.

I don't want to shoot a dog, but oh, I sure will, you can bet on it, to protect my investment and the law in this state and county backs me up. Someone's comment was why shoot a dog over a $2 chicken. I said we don't have $2 chickens. We have rare breeds that cannot easily be replaced and are quite valuable. Even if they pay me $50-75 for one of my Stukel hens or one of the blue partridge Brahmas, those can't be had by buying a feed store chick. They are very, very hard to find. But, that is not in their realm of understanding-they have never heard of someone bidding to pay over $150 for a dozen hatching eggs for my Stukel line as two different people did when I had the original breeding male.

Then, there is the 'revenge' killing comment, that you're doing it for revenge. Nope, revenge would be shooting the owner, which, though quite tempting, I guess we'll skip. But, who knows who these dogs belong to? Most of the time, they're dumped. I have no clue who they belong to, if anyone.

This is a huge pet peeve of mine. As I always say, a dog on the owner's property is a pet, but on someone else's property, it's a predator. That's the long and short of it.

 

[speckledhen]

Hey, genetics folks, I have a question about blue partridge Brahma x light Brahma. The lady who wants my dark blue partridge boy is putting him over light Brahma hens. She's also getting my younger partridge trio as well, but she wants that older boy for her existing girls. My mind is drawing a blank here on what she can expect from that, too much rain, my brain is soggy! @Sjisty, @anac1979 @junebuggena any input? Anyone else?

 

[1muttsfan]

Is light just columbian pattern?

 

[abraga]

More pics today of the 4 week olds and 8 week olds. The younger ones were apparently sunbathing and got a little "overcooked", so were panting their hearts out when I shooed them back into their pen at picture time.

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Do you sell eggs?

 

[speckledhen]

Is light just columbian pattern?

Yes, the "necklace" makes it Columbian. So, Buff Brahmas are sometimes called Buff Columbian. Delawares are Columbian-restricted and silver-based.

 

[speckledhen]

Do you sell eggs?

I do if someone is local and can pick them up, yes.

 

[1muttsfan]

So in the genetic calculator a cross between partridge and columbian patterns produces:
50% Pullets, black patterned gold incomplete-columbian
50% Cockerels, black patterned yellow/golden*S columbian
*S = heterozygous Silver S/s+
So if using a blue cock, you would expect 50% of the offspring to be blue patterned instead of black.

 

[abraga]

I do if someone is local and can pick them up, yes.

Oh...boooooI live in Virginia. I have blue/gold partridge BRAHMAH. I love that light roo. I would love some if your brahma eggs if you ever change your mind about shipping them.

 

[speckledhen]

So in the genetic calculator a cross between partridge and columbian patterns produces:
50% Pullets, black patterned gold incomplete-columbian
50% Cockerels, black patterned yellow/golden*S columbian
*S = heterozygous Silver S/s+
So if using a blue cock, you would expect 50% of the offspring to be blue patterned instead of black.

Now, you know you can't start that alphabet soup stuff when you explain things to me, Mary, LOL. I have some sort of mental block when it comes to gene designations, could never learn them for some reason. So, what you'd have to tell (well, show) me is what does a "black patterned gold incomplete-columbian" look like? Even if I understood what it was, the person I'm explaining to would want to see a picture. If you come across where someone has that cross, point me that direction. I've been looking but with this search, it's "needle-in-a-haystack" time.

What is the difference between gold and yellow-golden? I know the basics of what I need to know, but when you cross patterns, I get so lost. I remember that Andrew once told me that I had the makings of Crele Brahmas with my BRs and partridge Brahmas, but I'm not much of an experimeter.

Oh...boooooI live in Virginia. I have blue/gold partridge BRAHMAH. I love that light roo. I would love some if your brahma eggs if you ever change your mind about shipping them.

I will, but I doubt I'll ever begin shipping eggs like I used to when I had the BBS Orpingtons. I'm not NPIP and VA is one of those persnickety states, too, I understand, wants all the i's dotted and t's crossed.

 

[speckledhen]

Bonnie, my best blue partridge hen, is acting weird. She holds back from the group, sits in a corner on the floor when they go out. She is not broody, trust me. She's been broody three times this year, though we didn't let her have eggs last time. She was panting far more than the temps would say she should. It was warmer today, very humid, but the others are not acting like her. I checked her crop and abdomen and both seem normal. I even had DH hold her so I could check her for mites, but not a mite in sight (yippee!). I can't put my finger on it, but she's just off. I hope she's okay and just having an off day or two, not liking the temporary return to summer-like temps.