New Hampshire Reds Question

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Matt 1616 posts on this site and the rhode island red page i started. He has both pure Germans and the half and half line that doug has. one line has better female color than the other. these birds are the ones Doug shared with Kathy and she shared with others. Matt got his at a show last spring. The two strains look great to me. I would not have nothing else I dont know what the status of the old large fowl breed years ago are today. What I have been told they lost their shape and color and that is why some one imported these from Germany.

Someone wanted to get some of Mr. Frank Rees es birds. He does not sell to the general public so I would forget him. He has a old strain that he has kept going. I dont know what they look like.

I would not waist time and money only on the nice ones that I am talking about. There is a old strain back in Georgia and I have a friend who is getting eggs from this breeder. He use to have some nice ones and he got his old line back from someone. It will take time to rebuild this strain back up.

Sent me a personnel message and I will try to direct you to Matt. bob
 
I purchased Delaware, New Hampshire and Barred Plymouth Rock. Some of the Delaware and New Hampshire look pretty good, but the Barred Plymouth Rock are a little smaller and seem a little more high strung. My Delaware are the most tame and curious, much more so than the New Hampshire. Mind you, this is at 1 month old, but I think you can tell a lot about their personalities already. Anyway, long story short, I've got the chicken house set up to do some breeding, serious breeding and now I need some good stock. I'm hoping to find some breeding stock I can afford, but I really would like some nice birds. There is a lot of time and effort. For my little rare bird I got a Colombian Wyandotte -- wonderful personality. It sounds like some people have been crossing Delawares with them??? I would love some input from people who are breeding the dual purpose, and some good contacts for breeding stock. Thanks in advance -- here is a video I shot of the chicks today.
 
I saw your video and it is excellent I also went to utube and saw the other video that you had when you got your chicks from Murry McMurry.

You asked about getting better breeding stock for your Delawares. There are a few strains out thier but not many in the higt class of Heritage look of this breed but they are trying so very hard to improve them. Some are crossing Barred Rock Males onto New Hampshire females to start a whole new line. So you might just want to keep what you have untill they can breed these up one source told me its a three year out in the breeding program.
In your barred rocks and New Hampshire’s you also have a production type bird for each breed and they will be outstanding providers of eggs and meat. If you set up breeding pens for these breeds you will just produce more of the same. That is still good as you do have a good all around quality chicken. The difference is in appearance of the breed.

Let me give you a example: I have a dog I adopted that is half German Shepard and half Beagle. He has thin legs like a beagle but a pretty good body cavity and the color of a German Sheppard. I can’t call him a pure Breed German Sheppard and the other day he was down at the river with me and a lady was walking the real Rin Tin Tin German Shepard. They both smelled each other and I told the lady what a gorgeous dog she had and his type and color was dog book picture perfect.

I love my dog and I saved him from being put to sleep but he is not Standard German Sheppard Dog material because he is not a pure breed. In chickens it is the same way. Many breeds have clubs that promote the very breed you own. I was the National Secretary of the Plymouth Rock Club and any one who had Barred Plymouth Rocks had the Heritage Type or pure breed to the Standard of Perfection.. If you wanted to breed these type birds you would have to get some stock from such a breeder. Most folks get eggs or started chicks about four weeks old.
There is some excellent New Hampshire large fowl coming along and they could be obtained by eggs or chicks as well. There is not a lot of breeders out there yet but it’s growing each year.

I hope I helped you a little bit. You have a choice and that is to keep what you have or switch out maybe next year and try New Hampshire or Barred Rocks from some of the folks that post on this web site.

You have a great set up and I enjoyed seeing your layout and future nests for this fall when they start laying.

What state do you live in? This can help on how to get started with new blood.

Hope this may help others who cross over to this tread who may be interested in these very rare breeds of chickens. All three breeds you have are very low in numbers in America today. I am talking about standard breed birds.

I have a question when you made your video how long did it take to upload to U tube?

So many people want to send me pictures of their grown birds but if I could see a three minute video of them walking on the grass it would be so much easier to grade their birds which they ask me to do. Thanks for posting and showing us your great video. You look like you can raise young chickens up to adult hood and that is step one in Back Yard Chicken hobby. Bob
 
Robert Blosl said:
I saw your video and it is excellent I also went to utube and saw the other video that you had when you got your chicks from Murry McMurry.

You asked about getting better breeding stock for your Delawares. There are a few strains out thier but not many in the higt class of Heritage look of this breed but they are trying so very hard to improve them. Some are crossing Barred Rock Males onto New Hampshire females to start a whole new line. So you might just want to keep what you have untill they can breed these up one source told me its a three year out in the breeding program.
In your barred rocks and New Hampshire’s you also have a production type bird for each breed and they will be outstanding providers of eggs and meat. If you set up breeding pens for these breeds you will just produce more of the same. That is still good as you do have a good all around quality chicken. The difference is in appearance of the breed.

Let me give you a example: I have a dog I adopted that is half German Shepard and half Beagle. He has thin legs like a beagle but a pretty good body cavity and the color of a German Sheppard. I can’t call him a pure Breed German Sheppard and the other day he was down at the river with me and a lady was walking the real Rin Tin Tin German Shepard. They both smelled each other and I told the lady what a gorgeous dog she had and his type and color was dog book picture perfect.

I love my dog and I saved him from being put to sleep but he is not Standard German Sheppard Dog material because he is not a pure breed. In chickens it is the same way. Many breeds have clubs that promote the very breed you own. I was the National Secretary of the Plymouth Rock Club and any one who had Barred Plymouth Rocks had the Heritage Type or pure breed to the Standard of Perfection.. If you wanted to breed these type birds you would have to get some stock from such a breeder. Most folks get eggs or started chicks about four weeks old.
There is some excellent New Hampshire large fowl coming along and they could be obtained by eggs or chicks as well. There is not a lot of breeders out there yet but it’s growing each year.

I hope I helped you a little bit. You have a choice and that is to keep what you have or switch out maybe next year and try New Hampshire or Barred Rocks from some of the folks that post on this web site.

You have a great set up and I enjoyed seeing your layout and future nests for this fall when they start laying.

What state do you live in? This can help on how to get started with new blood.

Hope this may help others who cross over to this tread who may be interested in these very rare breeds of chickens. All three breeds you have are very low in numbers in America today. I am talking about standard breed birds.

I have a question when you made your video how long did it take to upload to U tube?

So many people want to send me pictures of their grown birds but if I could see a three minute video of them walking on the grass it would be so much easier to grade their birds which they ask me to do. Thanks for posting and showing us your great video. You look like you can raise young chickens up to adult hood and that is step one in Back Yard Chicken hobby. Bob
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Hi Bob,

thank you! It took about 10 minutes to upload the video, but my connection was running a little slow today. It usually doesn't take long, about 1 minute or less for every minute of video. I don't have super fast internet -- my internet is wireless -- I point an antenna at the grain elevator -- WiFi. It's still considered broadband, but I think anyone in the city, or an area that has cable will have access to broadband with higher speeds. I don't upload anything in hi-def.

Thank you for our post because I would like to get started breeding some good birds, heritage. I know it will take a few years to get a good start. My Barred Plymouth Rock would probably have been bigger, and nicer birds if they were heritage, or from a good breeder. In my mind I'm already culling; the poor little things aren't even laying yet. I live in Illinois, near Springfield. I'm fairly close to St. Louis, MO, and a few hours from Indianapolis, IN. I wouldn't mind driving several hours to get some good birds. The US Post Office seems to be pretty hard on the little guys. On my way to the hospital today I drove by the Poultry Building at the state fairground. I was wondering when the next poultry show would be, and who would be showing their birds in Springfield. Surely they have poultry shows before the state fair in August. These are all the things I will need to work out. Thanks for responding to my post! I will keep an eye out for the breed clubs and try to get some information there as well.

Take care,
Teresa
 
You live right in the middle of good chicken county. One thing you need to subscribe to is the Poultry Press. Go to their web site and get a sample paper. They will have all the shows in the region and they have a bunch with...in 200 miles of you. Kathy from Mo is not far from you she will be a great source to go visit as she has all three breeds that you have today. She is working on the Delawares as she got the bar reds first from Jeremy then got the New Hampshire's last fall at the Ill Mo show from Doug.

You are not waisting any time this year as you are getting good experience raising and watching your birds grow up. By this fall you could have picked up a couple of pairs of birds you want or wait till next year.

Maybe some on this site can tell her web sites that post all the chicken shows in the USA. I heard a lady from Calif called our President of our new Poultry Club in Pens cola Fla to get information on our show in the end of March. This lady I bet has all the shows within your driving distance.

We will help you get a good start.Kathy is a pro as she did all the home work and travailing last year and she has helped so many on this board get heart age poultry into their yards. bob
 
Robert Blosl said:
You live right in the middle of good chicken county. One thing you need to subscribe to is the Poultry Press. Go to their web site and get a sample paper. They will have all the shows in the region and they have a bunch with...in 200 miles of you. Kathy from Mo is not far from you she will be a great source to go visit as she has all three breeds that you have today. She is working on the Delawares as she got the bar reds first from Jeremy then got the New Hampshire's last fall at the Ill Mo show from Doug.

You are not waisting any time this year as you are getting good experience raising and watching your birds grow up. By this fall you could have picked up a couple of pairs of birds you want or wait till next year.

Maybe some on this site can tell her web sites that post all the chicken shows in the USA. I heard a lady from Calif called our President of our new Poultry Club in Pens cola Fla to get information on our show in the end of March. This lady I bet has all the shows within your driving distance.

We will help you get a good start.Kathy is a pro as she did all the home work and travailing last year and she has helped so many on this board get heart age poultry into their yards. bob
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You are wonderful to help! Thank you so much. I will try to touch base with Kathy again. I know everyone is busy this time of year, and I'm sure Kathy is busier than most. She sounds like an excellent person to talk to. I will go to the poultry press web site and check that out. I looked in the regional section of the BYC and I did find one person who is having a get together, but I didn't see the shows listed. You are so kind and helpful. I can't thank you enough!

I have some US ag info from the 1950's about poultry and the breeds of that time. It's really very interesting. It was printed during the transition of the poultry industry; the transition from farm raised dual purpose to mechanized production of meat and layers -- printed around 1956. It has some good information about dual purpose birds -- good layers that were then culled and processed for meat. I would love to put it on the web site and share it. I scanned a few pages and saved it as a pdf, but apparently I can't post those types of files if I'm not a gold or maybe platinum member. :( Let me know if you would like a copy.
 
I bought 6 NHs at the local TSC yesterday. my intentions are to eat the extra roos this fall and keep the hens for egg production. so far i am liking what you guys are saying about these birds. they appear to be a great all around breed!
 
Wow, over two years since this thread has been active! I guess the search function does work.
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