new research debunks trad views on nutrition

[Sally PB]

Oh, I made other dietary changes too. I used to eat a lot of colby cheese, and I took that out of my diet. Cheddar is a couple times a week on home made tacos/taco salad, not daily like the colby was.

 

[Altairsky]

I know someone else who eats lots of oats, porridge usually, but they make their porridge with full fat milk.

Full fat milk is actually healthier than skim milk. The process of milk defatting removes the fat, and all the fat soluble vitamins. So you basically drink a milk with less fat, but also deprived of vitamin A, D, E, and K and higher percentage of sugars.

The relationship between high-fat dairy consumption and obesity, cardiovascular, and metabolic disease

 

[saysfaa]

Fat also triggers satiation better, so there is less likelihood of overeating.

Possibly, it triggers "better" because most of the general population gets an overabundance of sugars. Or the "white" sugars. Maybe people have a satiation mechanism for sugars too but ours is broken like the thirst mechanism gets broken in many people these days ("read" as wanting food instead of water).

 

[Penpal]

Your liver produces cholesterol. You are going to have cholesterol even if you never eat it. Your brain needs cholesterol.

When the first study of cholesterol and heart problems was published, the graph was upside down. Actually, in any age group, the people with the lowest cholesterol die first.

You don't have a heart attack because your cholesterol is too high. Fibrin is a protein that causes blood clots where your blood vessels have a wound. Fibrin also will eventually form something like a net in your vessel which can catch cholesterol and form a blockage. When we are young our body breaks down the fibrin so a clot doesn't form. As you get older you need to help break down the fibrin because the "net" will catch cholesterol, no matter if the cholesterol level is high or low. Resveratrol (found in grapes, pomegranate) breaks down the fibrin.

 

[Perris]

When the first study of cholesterol and heart problems was published, the graph was upside down

have you got a reference for that? It would make an interesting example of errors and their consequences.

 

[Loving my girls]

Woah !
With the 140 pages so far this has certainly ‘pressed a few peoples buttons’

For my two penny’s worth. I don’t trust the hens to naturally eat a balanced diet with a cereal feed, they would always get rid of the corn first and then gradually and begrudgingly whittle it down until the linseed which was always thrown away.
I now feed them with pellets. In my opinion they now have no choice but to have a more balanced diet.

 

[Perris]

Woah !
With the 140 pages so far this has certainly ‘pressed a few peoples buttons’

For my two penny’s worth. I don’t trust the hens to naturally eat a balanced diet with a cereal feed, they would always get rid of the corn first and then gradually and begrudgingly whittle it down until the linseed which was always thrown away.
I now feed them with pellets. In my opinion they now have no choice but to have a more balanced diet.

It sounds like your problem was giving them just a cereal feed with its very limited constituents to choose from. I suggest you read some of the pages prior if you are interested in the topic, else continue with your pellets and ignore this thread.
You should also find out what goes into pellets and how they are made.

 

[Molpet]

Resveratrol (found in grapes, pomegranate) breaks down the fibrin.

I didn't know Japanese knotweed had it.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articl... is also found in,TCM in diverse tea products.

 

[Perris]

a short and simple piece appeared this morning on comparison between health benefits of full-fat, semi-skimmed and skimmed cow's milk, which some might find useful
https://www.theguardian.com/food/20...k-semi-skimmed-or-skimmed-which-is-healthiest

 

[Altairsky]

The article entirely skip the debate about the difference in content of fat-soluble vitamins which would have put full fat milk at advantage.
Often, missing vitamins are added to skimmed milk later, but synthetic vitamins belong to processed foods so they kept this issue out of the discussion on purpose.