new research debunks trad views on nutrition

[Folly's place]

This has been very interesting, and I'm going to add something I found out this year (the not so good way!).
As a young adult I became somewhat lactose intolerant; fresh milk was not good, scalded or cooked milk. ice cream, yogurt, and cheeses all fine. Many years later, last fall, GI issues developed, and I found out that lactose intolerance can get WAY WORSE over time!
Now a lactose suppliment is my friend, and forgetting it doesn't go well at all.
Overprocessed foods aren't great at all, agree completely. It's about all the added ingredients that make no sense, as adding stuff to buttermilk or sour cream, when it should be milk or cream and the culture only.
And humans are omnivores, not grazing herbivores!
Mary

 

[Molpet]

It's about all the added ingredients that make no sense,

So true.
I really like the app that Shadrock shared, yuka . It's very helpful so I don't have to read all that fine print and figure out what are bad or ok additives. And what is a better choice

 

[BDutch]

And humans are omnivores, not grazing herbivores!
Mary

… was our way with food and lifestyle before the industrial revolution right? and all we have changed now is wrong?

Meat was a luxury product for many people in my country a century ago. Many people only ate meat once a week, not more.

Today the food and healthcare institute in my country advices to eat not more than 300 grams red meat a week and no more than 500 gram including white meat (like chicken). Upf meat is the worst. Advice is up to max 30 g a week.
And they also advice eat at least 250g vegetables a day.

 

[Folly's place]

Historically (before agriculture, a recent development in human history) people were hunter-gatherers, and ate animals and plants available to them. Did they live longer than we do now? Not likely, because there were so many other factors involved.
It's harder to balance a vegetarian diet, and vegans need suppliments, because we need certain amino acids not easily found in plants. Balancing the amino acid profile, fats, and carbohydrates gives us an optimal diet, which varies a bit depending on individual needs.
Rant over...
We live much longer than people 70+ years ago, because of Public Health (clean water, food safety, vaccines, medical advances) in spite of the overprocessed diet choices available now.
Mary