new research debunks trad views on nutrition

[Perris]

thanks @RoyalChick ; I look forward to reading it.

 

[Perris]

"These findings on the relative importance of food processing should complement and expand, not displace, current understanding of diet-related health. A House of Lords committee report highlighted the need for a healthier UK food environment35. The wider food system is key in driving diet-related poor health and obesity by enabling ready availability to cheap, unhealthy food36. Little success13 has been achieved in addressing obesity since 1992, despite 14 government obesity strategies in England37. Many obesity policies focus on person-level actions, rather than system-level changes. The concept of Nova and ultraprocessing shifts the focus onto the environmental drivers of obesity and the influence of transnational food companies in shaping unhealthy food environments36,38. Reductionist approaches focusing solely on nutrient reformulation or individual-level action insufficiently address environmental factors. Stakeholders across disciplines and organizations must align and focus on wider actions to improve the food environment (for example, taxes and subsidies), to enable affordable, available and desirable healthy diets for all8,36."
I agree with that wholeheartedly; thanks again for linking RC.

I understand the importance of statistical analyses in studies like this, but it does lead to sections in which there are more numbers and codes than words and the 'text' looks more like a cipher than English; sadly, very offputting even for those interested in the topic.

 

[RoyalChick]

"These findings on the relative importance of food processing should complement and expand, not displace, current understanding of diet-related health. A House of Lords committee report highlighted the need for a healthier UK food environment35. The wider food system is key in driving diet-related poor health and obesity by enabling ready availability to cheap, unhealthy food36. Little success13 has been achieved in addressing obesity since 1992, despite 14 government obesity strategies in England37. Many obesity policies focus on person-level actions, rather than system-level changes. The concept of Nova and ultraprocessing shifts the focus onto the environmental drivers of obesity and the influence of transnational food companies in shaping unhealthy food environments36,38. Reductionist approaches focusing solely on nutrient reformulation or individual-level action insufficiently address environmental factors. Stakeholders across disciplines and organizations must align and focus on wider actions to improve the food environment (for example, taxes and subsidies), to enable affordable, available and desirable healthy diets for all8,36."
I agree with that wholeheartedly; thanks again for linking RC.

I understand the importance of statistical analyses in studies like this, but it does lead to sections in which there are more numbers and codes than words and the 'text' looks more like a cipher than English; sadly, very offputting even for those interested in the topic.

Yes. As someone who grew up analyzing scientific studies even I have to concentrate not to go cross-eyed! Well-written abstract and conclusions sections are essential to sanity.
But I would argue that the inclusion of the statistical data is important to ensure rigor and to allow others to challenge the findings.
This is where science journalists can prove their value (or sadly, sometimes not).
Here is the journalism version that led me to read the original article. Not horrible but some unfortunate mistakes in the writing and too obviously coming in with a bias.
https://futurism.com/scientists-processed-food-research

 

[saysfaa]

About 2 months ago, I made radical changes to what I eat... essentially, no UPF at all although that wasn't the purpose of the changes. This is after months/years of gradually moving toward less UPF - sort of because they are UPF.

Yesterday, I ate what I'm sure has a lot of UPF's. I noticed a drastic change in how I ate. I recognized that I was not interested in stopping even though I wasn't hungry anymore - was even a bit uncomfortably full. This hadn't happened in a very long time; so long that it felt strange although I remember doing it quite a lot before the changes. I enjoy the food we've been eating, at least as much as any other way I've eaten, but I don't keep eating it like this.

I don't think I'm explaining very well. I didn't do this with any such expectations. I brought ds food from a favorite fast food restaurant that isn't near where he now lives. Of course I knew it was essentially junk food but I wasn't trying to see effects or any such thing.

 

[Molpet]

About 2 months ago, I made radical changes to what I eat... essentially, no UPF at all although that wasn't the purpose of the changes. This is after months/years of gradually moving toward less UPF - sort of because they are UPF.

Yesterday, I ate what I'm sure has a lot of UPF's. I noticed a drastic change in how I ate. I recognized that I was not interested in stopping even though I wasn't hungry anymore - was even a bit uncomfortably full. This hadn't happened in a very long time; so long that it felt strange although I remember doing it quite a lot before the changes. I enjoy the food we've been eating, at least as much as any other way I've eaten, but I don't keep eating it like this.

I don't think I'm explaining very well. I didn't do this with any such expectations. I brought ds food from a favorite fast food restaurant that isn't near where he now lives. Of course I knew it was essentially junk food but I wasn't trying to see effects or any such thing.

I found this to be true for me too. Health food I tend to not over eat.

Except nuts especially cashews, but I pay for that later.

 

[Altairsky]

I stopped eating UPF decades ago. When I'm forced to eat UPF, it disgusts me. I can't eat it and I fail to understand how the heck everyone else find that stuff appealing. Last time I got dragged by other people to McDonald's, I skipped the meal. Potatoes tasted like an old truck oil change, and the hamburger tasted like rotten egg to me.
Last day I was traveling and I had a thirst emergency, only sodas were available. I found them so sweet, they made my thirst even worse and I got sick from it. How can people drink that stuff? They taste like poison to me!

 

[Iluveggers]

I stopped eating UPF decades ago. When I'm forced to eat UPF, it disgusts me. I can't eat it and I fail to understand how the heck everyone else find that stuff appealing. Last time I got dragged by other people to McDonald's, I skipped the meal. Potatoes tasted like an old truck oil change, and the hamburger tasted like rotten egg to me.
Last day I was traveling and I had a thirst emergency, only sodas were available. I found them so sweet, they made my thirst even worse and I got sick from it. How can people drink that stuff? They taste like poison to me!

Same. DS is in high school. His friends had a heated debate over the best fast food place. He said he had only ever had McDonald’s and he was very small and didn’t remember it. The school has taken field trips where they stop at rest stops, and he will pack his own lunch if there isn’t a Panera available there (the only semi-healthy “fast food” place he will consider eating from.) Tells them they can do what they want, but he prefers to eat real food. I’m proud he hasn’t given in to peer pressure although we have not placed any restrictions on him when he isn’t eating with us. He is a smart kid.