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Hello, my name is Whitney and I'm new here.

I don't have that much experience with chickens. We had a dozen laying hens before we were shut down by the city (never mind that we had 4 acres and were right on the line of city limits - we were only allowed a maximum of THREE animals and we were maxed out on that with our dog and cats).
It was a heartbreaking experience since these were our first chickens and we had raised them from chicks. That was about 3 years ago. We got chickens again last year after moving to a new place - on 20 acres, way out in the country - no more dealing with city bureaucracy and ridiculous municipal codes. We were excited and had 36 chickens....until a bear visited us.
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Two chicken coops later, we were down to 4 chickens so we got rid of them because the bear was coming back every single night, trying to get to them. So for the chickens' safety, we found them a new home. (What really made us upset was the bear was killing the chickens and NOT eating them. The bear just killed them and left them there)

Now, we have 9 chicks again. They're in a brooder in the bathroom downstairs that no one uses. We have one cornish cross, 3 cuckoo marans, 2 light brahamas, 1 gold laced wyandotte, 1 silver laced wyandotte, and 1 rhode island red. We might order some FCMs at the end of the month from a hatchery.

We'd also like to eventually get geese (I really like pilgrim geese but they're hard to find! My second choice is brown chinese) and some turkeys. I'm trying to convince Lindsay on guineas as well since we have ticks here. She's been resistant to the idea so far. I'll keep working on her.
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Oh and in case anyone's wondering, we're setting up an electric fence and I am getting a bear tag (hunting season opens April 15th). We also have an English Shepherd that just turned a year old. Last year he was just a puppy. I feel things will be different this year with predators because we have him and will have an entire perimeter of electric fencing.

Well I guess that's my introduction. Glad to be on here!
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I look forward to learning more!
 
Welcome to the Forums!

Bears are tough characters. The same reason my boyfriend has a bear tag. I have German Sheperds that seem to keep anything large directed towards other people's properties. Good luck!
 
Greetings from Kansas, EternalHeritage, and
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! Pleased to have you with us!! Hope you have your bear issues resolved! Have fun and enjoy your new flock!
 
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I'm sure your dog is very nice but, one dog of any breed is not going to drive away a Bear., especially when it's been successful before. I think their thick fur insulates them from some shock - people sometimes wrap bacon in foil and affix to electric fence. So whatever tries to eat that will get a shock where they aren't furry.

If you had two or three dogs protecting your stock they might be able to persuade a bear to go elsewhere but, they would never win a fight with one. I'm sure you wouldn't want your dog(s) mauled and killed. Let your dogs sound the alarm and hope your husband is them to shoot them. I worry about your family's safety to. I've been told bears are even worse than mountain lions.
 
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I'm sure your dog is very nice but, one dog of any breed is not going to drive away a Bear., especially when it's been successful before. I think their thick fur insulates them from some shock - people sometimes wrap bacon in foil and affix to electric fence. So whatever tries to eat that will get a shock where they aren't furry.

If you had two or three dogs protecting your stock they might be able to persuade a bear to go elsewhere but, they would never win a fight with one. I'm sure you wouldn't want your dog(s) mauled and killed. Let your dogs sound the alarm and hope your husband is them to shoot them. I worry about your family's safety to. I've been told bears are even worse than mountain lions.
I read this and realized I should clarify! My shepherds keep them away with noise. I would never allow any sort of interaction. I value my dogs too much to put them in that position. They sound the alarm, and I hope that the animals move on. If not, dogs are in and its time for bear hunting!
 
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I'm sure your dog is very nice but, one dog of any breed is not going to drive away a Bear., especially when it's been successful before. I think their thick fur insulates them from some shock - people sometimes wrap bacon in foil and affix to electric fence. So whatever tries to eat that will get a shock where they aren't furry.

If you had two or three dogs protecting your stock they might be able to persuade a bear to go elsewhere but, they would never win a fight with one. I'm sure you wouldn't want your dog(s) mauled and killed. Let your dogs sound the alarm and hope your husband is them to shoot them. I worry about your family's safety to. I've been told bears are even worse than mountain lions.

Oh no, I'm not expecting him to drive away a bear. I'm expecting him to alert me to the bear. Last year when the bear hit us, we were home and we had NO idea. Our senior dog (10 years old) didn't even bark at all. Our ES was just a puppy but now he has a booming alert bark. Nothing comes onto our property undetected. Trust me, the only thing that bear would face is a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs. I'd rather not shoot if I don't have to...unless it's hunting season and I can legally shoot the bear and keep it then I may. Otherwise FWP will just come and throw it away.
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A huge waste, IMO.

I talked with FWP and they said not to bait the fence because then the bear will associate it with the fence or something. You want the bear to associate the pain of the fence with whatever it is going after in the fence. Otherwise the bear will just look for ways to get around the electric fence, or so we were told. It is recommended a minimum of 5 strands of electric fencing for bears. This bear is particularly dangerous, IMO. It was only 10 feet away from us and stood up on its back legs. We were right next to the back door so we were able to back into the house immediately.
 

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