new turkey pair w/ slight blood in poo?

[longranger]

Transient minimal blood in stool is worrisome but is by no means diagnostic of cocci or any other pathogen. If these were stressed birds with early active cocci I doubt ACV alone would knock it down. Can't say that for sure but even the most effective drugs take a little while and the birds are still sick and stressed.

The immunity issue is a totally different kettle of worms. It will take exposure to an infectious agent in some form to stimulate developement of immunity. It makes sense that ACV and other agents that prevent active infection give just enough protection to allow birds to develope immunity by being exposed but not actively infected. As stated in a prior post proving these things would require carefull double blinded studies.

I use ACV all the time in all my waterers. So far so good so I will continue.

 

[wilds of pa]

Well if you trust your Birds to only vinegar, by all means don't use Anticoccidial Drugs then, whether it be in chick starter or liquid form..
Some small producers
provide raw milk, yogurt, apple cider
vinegar, or probiotics to birds, believing
that beneficial microbes will prevent or
treat coccidiosis. Actually, coccidia do not
compete with bacteria in the gut; therefore,
beneficial bacteria and other microbes
will not eliminate coccidial development.
Heres the rest of the info...

http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/PDF/coccidiosis.pdf

But is your choice.. your birds and your beliefs

for me i know what works when and if it is needed..
Take the advice that was given for cocci or leave it..

I never use ACV for my turkeys, but do enjoy it on my Smitty's French fries..

All our birds are given 911 powder and yogurt at times

This will be my last response in this post on ACV..

 

[Steve_of_sandspoultry]

Quote:
Wilds, I couldn't agree with you more. and well said all the way thru. Now tell me about these Smitty's fries and ACV.... sounds good.

Steve in NC

 

[longranger]

No need for anything but honest disagreement here. While I agree vinegar makes an excellent dip for fries and chips and is not a cure all implying it is totally without benefit is unfounded. My perspective for little it is worth is that it may have a beneficial effect on crop ph and encourage healthy intestinal tract flora. Or it may act as a static agent for cocci and other pathogens both in the water source and crop. Many very respected breeders think they have seen benefits.

One thing for sure is that there is no direct evidence that ACV directly does harm. I say directly because ACV like yogurt and vitamin supplements are not the answer for specific ailments, particularly treatable infections. Just my 2 cents.