"NEWBIE HERE" I NEED SOME HELP WITH QUESTION ABOUT MY BLACK COPPER MAR

[tyler04jones]

hi

i am pretty new to this scene i went to my local orchslands and i bought some select choice pullets and a couple rooster they have been alot of fun but since i have had a taste of this i really want to start doing this full time and breed only the best birds i can today 4-15 i bought 6 black copper marans i want to start breeding them and go to the blues and so on i just bought 3 arces of land to do this on but like i said i am totally new to this so here are some questions i have right now Thanks for the help

1.i have herd alot about the Wade Jeans line should i try to buy only this line?

2.people say they are from Wade Jean lines but how do i know that? do you get a certificate saying these are? or some type of documents? are these like dogs were you can check there pedigree?

3. does it really matter what lines they are from as long as there are a straight run b/c the 6 i bought are just straight run birds (seller not sure about lines)

4. when would be the best time to put them in outdoor pins it starting to get warm here in ks but when winter comes is there anything special i need to do besides put hay in the coop

5. i was thinking in each 10' x 6' pin putting 10 hens and 2 rooster what do you think more hens less roosters ?

if there is anything else you think i might need to know about the french black copper marans please send me an email

hopefully in the next 2 years i can be a very trusted breeder with only the best birds Thank You

 

[Blue Skys]

I can't help with your questions, but

 

[rhythmicgoldfish]

the most important thing about selective breeding is to diversify buy breeding stock from a few high end breeders

http://www.bevsmarans.com/

http://www.vhatchery.com/

also

https://www.backyardchickens.com/web/viewblog.php?id=4600

these would all give you great lines for your breeding program

 

[tyler04jones]

Thank You For The Great Info Keep It Coming Thanks Again

 

[60ACRES]

http://www.bevsmarans.com/

*Long waiting list there,... good luck!

**If you get any of these, let me know. Maybe we can do some trading!

 

[tyler04jones]

i have found some breeders that have a great wade jean line(straight from wade) and a great bev (straight from bev)line i am going to get 6 of each and hope for the best

 

[Freckle Face Farm]

I have c1's and bev's and wade jeane lines but I keep all of my lines seperate...
Why? I am keeping the lines true... I would like to see the difference in the lines...

 

[~SunSetsWest~]

Do not forget that with the huge spike in popularity of the BCM that there is alot of linebreeding and inbreeding going on, and genetics issues are starting to creep up, so buyer beware and do your research. With so many people having birds from Wade and Bev, you may be better off going outside those lines for some diversity..
(this is not meant to say that they don't have great birds, just that so many people now have them)..
Check these 2 links..




https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=125795&p=1

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=161851

 

[realmofthewoodsranch]

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Ok, I can't answer #1 or #2, except that I've heard that the Wade Jean line is very good. Your best bet is to buy birds that fit the BCM Standard of Perfection. My recommendation is to buy the best that you can afford, and make sure not to linebreed to heavily. It is good to outcross for genetic diversity. I would definetly recommend talking to other Marans breeders, maybe join the Marans club and then you'll learn alot of info that will prove very useful. They can also assist you in your endeavors.
#3- Straight run means that they did not sex the chicks, they could be male or female. It doesn't have anything to do with what lines they come from.
#4- That depends on the age of your chicks. You'll want to wait to take them out of the brooder until they are fully feathered and down to room or outdoor temperature, whichever is higher. If you buy adult birds, ask your seller where they are kept and that will tell you what you need to do with them when you bring them home.
#5- 10' x 6' (or 60 sq. ft.) would be suitable for 6 birds. You'll want about 10 sq. ft. per bird of outdoor area for them to be happy. Inside they need between 4 and 5 sq. ft. per bird.
The best rooster to hen ratio is 8-12 hens to one rooster. For that many hens and one rooster, it's 90' to 130' outdoor run room and 36' to 52' indoor room (minimum).
Good luck in you endeavors and we look forward to seeing you succeed in your goals!

 

[NYREDS]

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I have to disagree with this advice.
The absolute best way to screw up a breeding program is to indescriminately mate birds from various strains. If you want to seriously breed a type of fowl with a view toward improving them & consistantly producing predictable offspring you will select a strain & line breed within that strain.