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Early in this thread asomeone said that NAIS is part of the Dept of Homeland Security-it's not it's a USDA program.
This in itself, I think< illustrates the problem of multiple misconceptions being used by many to form their opinions.
NONAIS.org obviously has an agenda-it's in their name.
Many of the fears people express here and in othewr threads and other places are based on falsehoods.
NAIS does not demand that every chicken be microchipped & does not require that the USDA be notified every time your cow gets out or you ride your horse down the road.
I hear many people expressing concern about "premisis registration". Folks if you have a mailbox out front or pay properety taxes the Government already knows where you are.
I've read the program, talked with USDA officials and my State Veterinarian about NAIS. The result being I am not at all concerned about my freedom being compromised. Get the facts not misinformed opinions before you decide.
 
If you google NAIS and Homeland Security you will find this document. From it:

The Nais Project Is Classified As A Department Of Homeland Security (Dhs) Level 1 Investment And Is A Uscg Major Systems Acquisition Project. The Goal Of Nais Is To Enhance Maritime Domain Awareness (Mda), With Particular Focus On Improving Maritime Security, Marine And Navigational Safety, Search And Rescue, And Environmental Protection Services. Ais Data (E.G., Vessel Location, Course And Speed) Collected By Nais Will Be Combined With Other Government Intelligence And Surveillance Data To Form A Holistic, Overarching View Of Maritime Traffic Within Or Near U.S. And Territorial Waters.

I think you can see why people are confused with the government itself using the same acronym for different programs.

However, if you follow that same google, you'll find this document. It contains the following:

Homeland Security Act being amended to transfer bio-security to From Dept of Ag to Dept. of Homeland Security-Introduced March 9, 2005

That info is from this link.

From Meandthegals' link above:

NAIS, ostensibly intended to contain disease outbreaks among livestock, has sparked the most severe political backlash rural America has seen in decades. The controversy stems primarily from the backhanded way the government has imposed a deeply unpopular policy. By introducing NAIS as regulatory changes, the USDA has short-circuited the democratic processes designed to protect the public from government overreaching. Congress has never debated NAIS, and few elected officials have been held accountable for its consequences. The USDA has backed off the original plan to make NAIS mandatory and fully operational by 2009 and now describes the program as "voluntary." While it may be voluntary on the federal level, the USDA has pushed states to make NAIS mandatory for their local farmers.

Couching the NAIS program under the guise of 'it's not the government' is just another way of trying to buffalo people into believing it's a benign thing. You may want to drink the Kool-aid, but I won't, and obviously (and thankfully) many others won't, either.​
 
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While I'm not totally against keeping track of livestock and food products, I am against a stupid plan to do so.

You have to keep the NAIS plan in historical perspective. Right about the time they came out with this there were several incidents which scared the crapola out of people. Mad Cow from a herd in Canada was one and the re-emergence of hoof and mouth in Britian another.

I can remember the Japan incident because I had a friend who was getting her masters in food science when it happened. The Japanese government flew every food science grad student over to advise on the issue. it was a pretty big deal to everyone involved.

People were freaked about our food supply after 911 and the government saw gaping holes in the way our food supply is protected. Gaping holes meant public outcry and liability issues, not to mention the whole public trust thing.

So, NAIS grew out of this fear and the government needed to act quickly and thus, this plan was drafted. They did not expect the widespread resistance to it and as most of you know, many states backed off the issue in one way or another.

It won't go away, and to be honest I'm not sure a good plan should be rejected, but as it stands peole are not happy and the gvernment know that. Changes are definately in order on both sides of the issue.

Should there ever be a breach in the food supply some sort of emergency plan is necessary. Is that NAIS? Probably not the way it stands now, but if thousands of people started dropping like flies and the government had NO plan...well I think we can all see the finger pointing on the wall.

It is a da*ned if you do and a da*ned if you don't type of scenario.

Do I think the govermnment is using the NAIS to manipulate rural people and take away their rights. No. I think they messed up a perfectly good plan by not asking the people what should be done about the problem prior to enacting it and assuming they would go along after-the-fact out of fear.
 
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I really have no problem with protecting our food supply. Where does most of our food come from nowadays, though? It isn't from the small farmer (we had far fewer problems when it was). It is from huge agribusinesses, who buy product perhaps from smaller guys who play by their rules. Now if NAIS were targeted mainly at that layer of the food production process they wouldn't have as many complaints as they do, because the centralization of our food supply are where the problems are. But the big guys have lobbyists and lawyers and they crafted things so NAIS doesn't affect them on an individual basis, but in groups, or lots - how effective is that? They can track my backyard chickens that will never enter the food supply, only their eggs, but the Tyson farmer who sends 10,000 birds into the system can group that whole lot under one number (whatever that number may be). There's the rub. Make the guys with the money and the production toe the line first, then come after us little guys.
 
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You're correct, but those corporate farms already have a plan in place. I have several farms right now dealing with PERS in the herd. They cull immediately, they establish biosecurity zones, they shower in and out EVERY time they enter the barn, they have staff veterinarians, they control ventilation, they track every animal in, every death, every sale, and every truck that moves them out. They give me all that that stuff any time I ask.

Those large farms are already on board.

Here is what will happen with NAIS, I'm almost willing to bet money on it. The government will succumb to to the outcry, the large farms will do as they always have, the small famers will then carry a burden of proving they are comlying with BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES. If you've never heard that phrase before, write it down. We use it all the time in Ag and it will eventually pop up with repsect to this issue.

The BMP's will consist of LOTS of record keeping. Where you got the animal, what vaccinations it has, how you clean the barn, what you clan the barn with, where the poop goes, what you feed them, where is your quarantine barn/pen, how long you quarantine, who monitors the quarantine, where you store the feed, what they die of, how you dispose of mortalities, where your birds go and when.

They will almost certainly do away with the government collecting this information up front, but they will insist you be registered in case of an emergency. If and when there is any outbreak in your area they will visit, heck they might visit every year just to check records and make sure your complying (And double heck, maybe it will be me who makes the visit??
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I'm a nice inspector, my producers love me.). Anyway, if there is an outbreak and your farm is in the zone they will want your records.

If your animals haven't left the farm and your records indicate that, mind you your records are so well written they have no reason to doubt you, plus they show no indication of disease...you're probably gonna be off the hook. If you have no records, your birds look bad, your neighbor down the road who also against government interference has no records at all and he gave you a bird a few months ago, well then you're gonna get scre*ed.

Everyone has a certain level of responsibility, and this scenario in my opinion, is not very far fetched.

I was told something in college during my first animal science course and I'll never forget it - Dr. Tom Field, my professor, said, "We must regulate ourselves because if we don't the government will do it for us."

It is all about personal responsibility.

Words to live by.
 

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