Norfolk Black Turkey cross-breeds?

[Serb]

The hen that i think is a pure-breed had poults that all looked like this little guy. (chicks are 4 days old).
Now all the females came from the same breeder and most likely the same parents so I'm sure that if one female is a cross the other 2 are also unless there was a chance in the genes that the female is indeed a pure breed. The parents were also Norfolk Black of the flock I've now. It's funny how genes work
I wrote a lot but i find it too interesting :')

 

[R2elk]

This is the female who produced all the mixed poults (the other 2 hens are brooding and i couldn't get a good pic of one of them and the other is siting on eggs under bush two houses away from mine).

Based on that picture, that is definitely not a pure black. I would guess there is bronze in her but whether it is bronze or black winged bronze, I don't know. My guess is that she is either Bb or Bb1.

 

[R2elk]

This is the male who mated with all the females. He looks a bit down because my turkeys are starting to moult.

He is a barred black, definitely not a pure black. He also is likely to be either Bb or Bb1.

 

[R2elk]

These 2 are my other 2 males who didn't breed with the females since they are a bit younger. All my Turkeys are less than a year old.

The one on the left has some bronze in him. The one is the middle is the closest to being a pure black and the one on the right is another barred black.

 

[R2elk]

This is the poult who i think is a bronze turkey

That one might be a bronze but there are a number of mixed varieties that look similar at that age.

 

[R2elk]

I've 2 of these white chicks (had 3 but one hatched at the wrong end and didn't make it).

That does look like a white poult but time will tell. If they are white, it would mean that both the tom and the hen are heterozygous for recessive white (Cc). C = color (semi-color) and c = recessive white which requires cc for the white to be shown and will mask all of the other color genes.

 

[R2elk]

Have 3 chicks that have orange spots on their heads like this one.

I would not be surprised if that turns out to be predominantly black but with the bronze tinges like the first hen you posted.

 

[R2elk]

The hen that i think is a pure-breed had poults that all looked like this little guy. (chicks are 4 days old).
Now all the females came from the same breeder and most likely the same parents so I'm sure that if one female is a cross the other 2 are also unless there was a chance in the genes that the female is indeed a pure breed. The parents were also Norfolk Black of the flock I've now. It's funny how genes work
I wrote a lot but i find it too interesting :')

That does look like it may be a black. When you are breeding pairs that are heterozygous for certain color genes (Bb), the possible outcomes are 25% BB, 25% bb and 50% Bb. B = black and b = bronze.

 

[Serb]

That does look like it may be a black. When you are breeding pairs that are heterozygous for certain color genes (Bb), the possible outcomes are 25% BB, 25% bb and 50% Bb. B = black and b = bronze.

I'm glad i got a professional response. I'm familiar with genetics since i do it with my Buff and Brown african geese. Once again thanks for your time and i will update you on this thread with my turkeys and we'll see what the poults turn out to look like since I'm trying to stick to pure breeds even though i am in love with my present turkeys.
I will also keep you updated on the 14 eggs who are due next week and try and get the pics of the other 2 females.
Cheers

 

[Serb]

Alright so 13 out of 14 chicks hatched 2 days ago (one pipped at the wrong end again). So this time i got 11 black, 1 bronze and 1 white. The coloured chicks came from the same mother who produced the other whites and bronze. The blacks arent all pure breed either with maybe 6 which look like pure breeds. The 11 black came from the one who i thought was a pureB and the other hen who didn't have chicks in the first batch. The 1st batch is growing rapidly. The bronze and whites and blacks with orange spots on their heads are a lot bigger than my chicks who i think are pure breed. For me it makes sense since the mixes have the white and bronze genes in them which are rapid growers while Norfolk black and other heritage turkeys are slow growers.

Will try and get pics of course!