Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

[tridentk9]

@seminolewind
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@jgoldy2
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@lalaland...
                            ...THANK YOU ALL for your heart felt sentiments.  I knew you'd understand !!!

She's no better today than she has been, yet none the worse either, so I'm...I'm...(what...what am I doing)...keeping my fingers crossed ???  For what exactly ???  For a cure that's not going to come in time to save her?  For a few more weeks with her so that I can watch her dwindle away even more?  No.  I do not think so.  I try to spend the majority of my time in a little place I like to call 'reality', so I actually won't be crossing my fingers at all...it's just too hard to hold her and love her with my fingers all twisted up like that...

Good Night John Boy...

-kim-


P.S.  seminolewind...what were you reading that led you to believe that the commercial producers no longer have a Marek's problem?  Seems to me that if their strength (their PAC's, their enormous sums of money, etc) is even half as strong as we give them credit for...what makes you think they'd tell us if they did...???

Just some food for thought!

Man, I just love feeding the fish in our tank !!!

Hy-Line for example can run their own SNP tests, they have the ability to develop MDV resistant strains and have. They can do an all in/all out plan AND their birds have a limited lifespan. For broilers, all they need is a nice looking carcass with no tumors. Those last three words sound familiar, eh?

If the vaccine reduces the tumor development and they can sell the meat- I'd guess that as far as the commercial broiler industry is concerned, vaccinations has dramatically reduced the MDV problem. For the egg industry, vertical transmission isn't an issue yet.

Ahhh, mightymax. When to let her go is when it's best for her. While the actual decision may be yours, it's not really about you. I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time coming up with words to explain feelings.

 

[mightymax]

At first my intention was to get on here and say that
I'm very aware that it's not all about me...but then I thought, Heck, I've been doing this for awhile now, so
just this once, just for this one moment, why can't it be
all about me...

Sometimes you have to be a little selfish to get through it.

-kim-

 

[seminolewind]

At first my intention was to get on here and say that
I'm very aware that it's not all about me...but then I thought, Heck, I've been doing this for awhile now, so
just this once, just for this one moment, why can't it be
all about me...

Sometimes you have to be a little selfish to get through it.

-kim-

And I think all of us know that we get 99.9% of our support here, And a lot of that is by sharing stories as well as information. So you go ahead and don't worry about who's got the stage and for how long, LOL!

If you look at Nambroth's Derperella thread, and see how many followers, it kind of changes perspective on what's of interest to people.

 

[Suzie]

At first my intention was to get on here and say that
I'm very aware that it's not all about me...but then I thought, Heck, I've been doing this for awhile now, so
just this once, just for this one moment, why can't it be
all about me...

Sometimes you have to be a little selfish to get through it.

-kim-

I totally agree with you on so many of your posts on this thread...I tend to follow and read ( this is all about knowledge to me that I am so very interested in ) and it is heart rending to read of what we go through in the demise of our beloved chickens...we suffer the most and it is about our loss, frustration, heartache and ultimately the hopeless feeling that this is out of our control...

Sometimes we need to be selfish...

So many of you who post on this thread have shown your love and devotion...I am so very honoured to share your true feelings...all of you are amazing!

Bless you all!

 

[mightymax]

Well I just returned from completing my morning rounds and I'm sad to report that Pear-Pear's health has severely declined in the past 24 hours.
She is no longer able to remain with the others, as I found her this morning laying on her side on the coop floor with Riley Roo's. five little ones scampering all over her.
It's not their fault though, they're just doing what baby chicks do, and Pear-Pear doted on those chicks like they were her own for as long as she could. That's one of the
reasons why I put her back in with the others after having separated her last week, so she could be with the babies. I honestly don't like to separate birds that have bonded unless
I truly have to, even in the face of disease. I feel that it's counter-productive to what I'm trying to accomplish, which is to make them comfortable and happy in their time of sickness and
possible fear. The fact that their lives are probably extended as well is just a bonus. If I believed that keeping her with the rest of her flock would in any way compromise either her
health or that of her friends, I would separate, as I had to today. Otherwise I rely on my own feelings and intuitions about what I think they would like, which usually doesn't involve
increased anxiety from unnecessary separations. Especially true with this disease, as all have already been exposed and all will ultimately die.

Thank you all for reading/listening/caring !!!

-kim-

 

[Suzie]

Only you know what is right for her..given the circumstances you and she are facing I would do the same for any ailing chicken...she needs peace in her time of need..YOU are all she needs right now to make her as comfortable and stress free as is possible...

With tears in my eyes I wish you both peace....you so deserve it!

 

[tridentk9]

At first my intention was to get on here and say that
I'm very aware that it's not all about me...but then I thought, Heck, I've been doing this for awhile now, so
just this once, just for this one moment, why can't it be
all about me...

Sometimes you have to be a little selfish to get through it.

-kim-

Oh Kim. My sincerest apologies, I did not mean you were thinking just about you but that you are putting Pear-Pear first. I thought your posts were spot-on.

 

[seminolewind]

Well I just returned from completing my morning rounds and I'm sad to report that Pear-Pear's health has severely declined in the past 24 hours.
She is no longer able to remain with the others, as I found her this morning laying on her side on the coop floor with Riley Roo's. five little ones scampering all over her.
It's not their fault though, they're just doing what baby chicks do, and Pear-Pear doted on those chicks like they were her own for as long as she could. That's one of the
reasons why I put her back in with the others after having separated her last week, so she could be with the babies. I honestly don't like to separate birds that have bonded unless
I truly have to, even in the face of disease. I feel that it's counter-productive to what I'm trying to accomplish, which is to make them comfortable and happy in their time of sickness and
possible fear. The fact that their lives are probably extended as well is just a bonus. If I believed that keeping her with the rest of her flock would in any way compromise either her
health or that of her friends, I would separate, as I had to today. Otherwise I rely on my own feelings and intuitions about what I think they would like, which usually doesn't involve
increased anxiety from unnecessary separations. Especially true with this disease, as all have already been exposed and all will ultimately die.

Thank you all for reading/listening/caring !!!

-kim-

I'm so sorry!

I do that too, I try to think of what they would like. Some like solitude. Some need to be with the flock.

 

[jgoldy2]

Well I just returned from completing my morning rounds and I'm sad to report that Pear-Pear's health has severely declined in the past 24 hours.
She is no longer able to remain with the others, as I found her this morning laying on her side on the coop floor with Riley Roo's. five little ones scampering all over her.
It's not their fault though, they're just doing what baby chicks do, and Pear-Pear doted on those chicks like they were her own for as long as she could. That's one of the
reasons why I put her back in with the others after having separated her last week, so she could be with the babies. I honestly don't like to separate birds that have bonded unless
I truly have to, even in the face of disease. I feel that it's counter-productive to what I'm trying to accomplish, which is to make them comfortable and happy in their time of sickness and
possible fear. The fact that their lives are probably extended as well is just a bonus. If I believed that keeping her with the rest of her flock would in any way compromise either her
health or that of her friends, I would separate, as I had to today. Otherwise I rely on my own feelings and intuitions about what I think they would like, which usually doesn't involve
increased anxiety from unnecessary separations. Especially true with this disease, as all have already been exposed and all will ultimately die.

Thank you all for reading/listening/caring !!!

-kim-

At first my intention was to get on here and say that
I'm very aware that it's not all about me...but then I thought, Heck, I've been doing this for awhile now, so
just this once, just for this one moment, why can't it be
all about me...

Sometimes you have to be a little selfish to get through it.

-kim-

So sorry to hear that Kim, does she look like my little hen? My first tip to keep whatever she has out of the flock I would take her to a dog crate and care fo her separately, and I hope she gets better, keep us posted.

 

[mightymax]

...I wish it were that simple jgoldy2. Unfortunately, with this disease, by the time one of your chickens starts displaying signs of it, it's
pretty much too late to save the others as well. That's because Marek's Disease is like a silent giant. It creeps into your flock undetected, literally
arriving on the wings of the wind and it can hide out on your property for years, waiting for just the right moment to strike. And when it does strike,
it's complete bedlam and it leaves nothing in it's wake but death and devastation.
So you see, putting Pear-Pear in isolation isn't going to help the rest of the flock because they've already been exposed to the virus, it's just laying
in wait for the opportunity to strike.

-kim-