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As long as you are living a life that you are comfortable with, and not hurting anyone else, in my opinion you are living a normal life, and no one else really has the right to judge you.

Some people have a problem recognizing or accepting that EVERYONE is different, an no one is "normal". That's what makes humanity so wonderful- with almost 7 billion different people on this planet, how could anything be defined as "normal", and how could we possibly want everyone to be like us, think like us, view the world the same way we do. How boring that would be, we'd be an ant colony and not a human race.

Gargoyle i second this - my mom taught us that no matter what you do or who you are as long as you are not hurting anyone who cares what you do?
I also feel everyones definition of normal is different and that is what makes each of us so great. How boring really if everyone were the same!!!!
no harm no foul
 
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Yes it would be rude to ask but with some of the facts some would say this is my husband when the couple are female. I would settle for that. The problem I only know three gay people, and adding more to my list as time goes on, that my female cousins would use "my wife" and the other one would say "my partner" and the one I am aquataince with said "my husband". How would I address them in introductions without the embarrassment of proper introductions of gay people? Would you say this is Mr and Mrs or Ms and Ms or Mrs and Mrs. That is the real crutch of introduction eqiuette I have how to address to and about gay couples.

I am not not interested in the sexual part of it, even I may be curious about it naturally but that is a whole nother agenda and it is not going to be broadcasted in here, that's for sure. Sure I am curious what makes them take on a male or female role when it is that obvious in how they were dressed, talk, actions or even doing in a male orientated work places or job that has a very high number of males. People are funny about that but they will get over it if they are to work together. There are some very, very talented gay female people in the dominant male employment and they do it well even they may be subject to harrassment or brunt of the jokes. Guess who would get the last laugh.....the ignorant ones.
 
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As long as you are living a life that you are comfortable with, and not hurting anyone else, in my opinion you are living a normal life, and no one else really has the right to judge you.

Some people have a problem recognizing or accepting that EVERYONE is different, an no one is "normal". That's what makes humanity so wonderful- with almost 7 billion different people on this planet, how could anything be defined as "normal", and how could we possibly want everyone to be like us, think like us, view the world the same way we do. How boring that would be, we'd be an ant colony and not a human race.

Gargoyle i second this - my mom taught us that no matter what you do or who you are as long as you are not hurting anyone who cares what you do?
I also feel everyones definition of normal is different and that is what makes each of us so great. How boring really if everyone were the same!!!!
no harm no foul

I do remember seeing the History Channel regarding to the gay people in Greek a very long time ago. It WAS widely acceptable at that time but something did happen to change it. Disease, religion and Mother Nature had a lot to do with the changes. Very interesting topic!
 
Oddly most people think i am "odd" more for the fact that i have chickens and my screen saver at work is my favorite hen! LOL
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I KNOW I'm odd. I'm not gay but I am very odd.
I always thought being unique was a good thing.
When I tell a friend an interesting story about myself or something I've done, I follow up with the question "don't you have any normal friends?"

Regarding 'family' historically, the traditional "Leave it to Beaver" type is a very recent phenomenon of approximately the last perhaps 60 years. Prior to that, singles living alone and two or up to several men or several women cohabitating was more the norm. Not necessarily gay, just out of convenience or necessity. So, in my opinion, when someone speaks of family values or traditional family; I'm pretty sure it's an impression they gained from television, not a knowledge of sociology historically speaking.

Just my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.
 
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That happens in some groups of gay people, Boyd, where questions about 'who's the butch' are just fine.

And there are also people who would greet such a question with an indignant laugh and 'what are you, back in the stone age?' Or they'd think that...LOL.

With most of the gay friends I have, they are in their sixties, they are professionals, and they have spent many, many very difficult decades keeping their private life VERY private, for fear of being outed and losing their jobs (or being kept in a lower level job forever).

That is why I don't ask for specifics. Because I cannot tell if I am talking to someone who would be very comfortable telling someone that information, OR NOT.

My basic rule of thumb is that if I wouldn't ask a straight person something, I would also not ask a gay person that.

But I also don't ask such things, because I simply am not interested in knowing. As far as I'm concerned, it's not my place to ask - it's a person's place to decide if they want to tell. Further, I fundamentally am NOT curious about it. I just don't care. It means nothing to me, just as being straight or gay means absolutely nothing to me other than being on the same level as 'oh you have blond hair'. I simply do not care. And in most cases, I'm welcome in almost any group simply BECAUSE I don't care.

So is my partner. He is so completely unconcerned about those issues, that I've even been told by extremely adamant separatists, 'don't bring any men to this house - EXCEPT HIM. HE's FINE'. WHY? BEcause he takes us just as we are.

If someone wants to tell me that stuff, fine. If not, fine.

But I don't ask that kind of question when I am introduced to someone, just as I don't ask heterosexuals those kinds of things when I am introduced to them.

This way, I'm not making anyone uncomfortable or insulted. I don't want to find out this is one person who is uncomfortable, by bringing it up. If the person is comfortable with such things, they they can say whatever they like to me.

I don't start by assuming someone is comfortable with such things. That way, I don't hurt or embarras people that I would like to make comfortable and at ease.
 
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No no no, I think I may have expressed myself wrongly there. My friends are just more open, and I agree with the statements above completely. Sorry if I offended you
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I'll second this sentiment.
I just stumbled across this thread. Never expected to see this on my favorite chicken forum. What great people from all walks of life.

My partner of 25 years are looking forward to the day when we can be each others husband.

Thanks for the very rewarding read...
 
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