Odd bugs on hens - Could lead to death?

[chickenoverlord]

And I know it works as an internal wormer on horses and dogs, because I have seen it work with my own eyes.

 

[Suzierd]

"Chickens usually dont need to be wormed." I can assure you if their feet touch the ground, they'll get worms eventually and DE is useless as a wormer.

X2 DE is worthless for worms. Get Valbazen give 1/2 cc for standard chicken, dose again in ten days. Toss eggs up to 14 days after last dose. Best of luck with them very sorry you lost one. Deffently treat for those lice, mites/lice can kill your chickens.

 

[dawg53]

I'm just doing what the vet told me to do.

Baloney. If your vet told you to use DE, he shouldve sold it to you $$$ No vet sells DE because they know better.
Time to look for a new vet.

 

[tadpole98]

Quote: I dont worm my ladies unless they look like they need it. they will get worms, in fact, even humans have 'worms and other parasites' living in us. But dont worm unless you need too. DE doesnt worm worth a darn, but it does help get rid of external pests.

 

[Michael Apple]

There's a vet who advertizes his homeopathic business in my area. I see some of the owner's dogs every so often. They come in with lots of homeopathic products the owners purchased from the vet and still have existing problems, yet they keep buying different remedies for a problem which continues. I wouldn't take the extreme that natural remedies should be avoided in all cases, but the reason modern medicine came into being, is due to disease resistance from organic or natural cures that once existed. Like I've said before about DE. It is effective against some invertebrate pests in the garden but won't terminate worms in poultry, dogs, cats or any other animal.

DE will not prevent or stop a mite or louse infestation. It is a respiratory irritant to birds as well. Permethrin and Rabon/Vapona does eliminate and control lice and mites, and when used according to manufacturer labels, are safe to use on chickens as well as on poultry premises. Rotating Permethrin with other insecticides are also necessary since even veterinarians are seeing products like Advantage (which contains Pyrethrins) are not as effective for flea control as they once were.

 

[JoePa]

When a chicken dies you should put on rubber gloves and cut up the chicken to see if there are any worms in its gut or anyother thing that might look like it contributed to its dead - that's one way of learning about chickens - check its crop also -

 

[Qalupalik]

In theory, I would have liked to have done a necropsy, but I'm too squeamish and my husband is worse. Plus, I don't have any of the tools. Its crop was squishy when I felt it before it died. I could feel some grains/stones in it. He said the blanket was absolutely covered in lice when he picked her up to bury her, so maybe it was the lice? I didn't know lice could actually kill them. When I was at a farm in Ecuador, all the livestock were covered in ticks and they were "ok". I dusted them all in Dri-Kil last night, and only after my lungs started burning, did I do the research that said it is potentially fatal if inhaled or absorbed through the skin. (The lady I got it from said it was harmless) But then, if it's harmful/fatal for humans, what's it doing on the chickens?

Maybe that was what killed her in the end? I haven't had a chance to look for that large bug again, though hopefully its been killed with the Dri-Kil....

 

[pwand]

I haven't wormed them. I haven't been able to find a wormer yet, and the place where I buy my feed from says that they shouldn't need wormer, that she's had tons of chickens for a long time and has never needed it. But then again, I asked her if she knew a poultry vet and she said that chickens don't go to the vet.


The fact that she was so much worse off (she just died this afternoon) compared to rest of them, makes me suspect that it's more than just worms, if at all. I'm going to dust them all with dri-kill tonight. UGH! 3.5 weeks!!! This is so sad. I wish I would have known more and dealt with it (what is it?) earlier and saved her life.

I live on Vancouver Island close to where you live. The approved dewormers that are sold here for chickens only treat round worms. I bought Safe Guard "fenbendazole 100 mg/g" From the feed store. It's a horse paste dewormer. It treats other worms. I gave my chickens 1/2ml for each standard size bird or 1/4ml for small birds. Repeat does in 10 days, don't eat eggs for 14 days after last dose.

You will have to redust your birds again as well as dewormering them. Do all the birds.

Here is good information about lice and mites.

http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2012/08/poultry-lice-and-mites-identification.html

If you google info on worms in poltury, they can get a lot of different worms.