Oh Craigslist, You Amuse Me So!

[donrae]

Woody is a registered thoroughbred mare. She is blind in one eye but does great. She can be used as a broodmare or a companion pet only. She really needs a great home of her own and someone to love her. RES-Q-RANCH is full and needs to find homes for some great horses.. We need to make room for others waiting to come in...If you can offer a wonderful home with shelter, feed and love please call Linda


Really? She can be a broodmare and make more worthless, unwanted babies?

Just torques me when "Rescue" operations advertise a horse as a broodmare. It's like a dog shelter saying "this girl just had 8 mixed breed puppies, adopt her and get her knocked up again for all those cute puppies you can have!"

Grrrrr.

 

[cassie]

If she is registered the foals are not worthless. If I bred her it would be to produce a foal for my own use.

 

[donrae]

If she is registered the foals are not worthless. If I bred her it would be to produce a foal for my own use.

Sorry, registered horses end up at auction/slaughter all the time. Even pretty colored ones, palominos and paints.

It's just the idea of a rescue, that knows how many unwanted horses there are, advertising to contribute to the problem. Then again, I guess it could be considered drumming up business.

 

[The Yakima Kid]

Sorry, registered horses end up at auction/slaughter all the time. Even pretty colored ones, palominos and paints.

It's just the idea of a rescue, that knows how many unwanted horses there are, advertising to contribute to the problem. Then again, I guess it could be considered drumming up business.

Whoever runs that rescue should be sentenced to collecting the abandoned horses dumped along the roadsides in the western states. Here in California we have veterinarians who are now euthanizing once valuable horses whose owners cannot feed or house them, and no rescue or volunteer will take them. The veterinarians don't want to do it - but the alternative is the horses being abandoned on the roadside, which is already happening. Over in Nevada thieves broke into a friend's property and left the gates open and her aged registered stallion escaped. The local rescue people allegedly gave him a genetic test and "determined he was a mustang" and euthanized him because he was to old to survive as a feral horse. She spent days looking for him, and the morons at the rescue told her they'd never seen him. Finally they admitted they'd had and euthanized him - but her description of her own horse was wrong because his genetic test allegedly showed he was a broomtail - which he most definitely was not.

(Genetic testing to determine if a horse is a mustang is ridiculous, given that they are purebred mongrels. The myth is that the broomtail, AKA mustang, descended from Arabians ridden by the Spanish. Unfortunately, the Spanish didn't tend to ride Arabian horses, preferring as warhorses the Andalusian and some other breeds - although the Andalusian, did have some Barb and even possibly Arabian ancestry - but what we fail to remember is that when the Muslim rulers were driven from Spain they were very averse to leaving Arabian horses behind because they were considered weapons of war, to be kept from others. The Spanish may indeed have imported some Barbs and a few Arabians - but they were not the majority of the imported horses. The Barb and the Andalusian appear to be related - but Barbs are not Arabians. The other thing to remember is that the Spanish also imported many draft and pack horses which were unlikely to be Barbs, Arabs, nor Andalusians. It actually does a disservice when people attempt to restrict the feral horse herds to "purebred mustangs" since the emphasis on supposedly Arab genetics actually favors the descendants of the Remount project Thoroughbred stallions over the tougher - and often hairier and less refined - "Indian pony" landrace broomtail which built the reputation of the broomtail for toughness. My own great-grandfather raised remount horses in the Pacific Northwest, in an area where the mustangs are considered to be especially fine and "pure" - which is funny considering how the ranchers in that area raising Remount horses tended to get rid of the wild stallions and use the free Thoroughbred stallions provided by the cavalry to put size and refinement on the broomtails. In other words, the gracile build and lack of feathers owes less to any remote Arabian ancestry than it does to several generations of 19th Century Thoroughbred stallions spread about in rural eastern Washington and Oregon, among other states.)

 

[The Yakima Kid]

It is. People buy puppies, and find "that it just doesn't work". Well maybe that's the case, but you should have everything set up to work before adopting a puppy, or any pet for that matter. I got my dog from a family who had him tied up outside every single day. Poor baby was obviously mistreated because of his fear for humans.

A friend of mine is a trainer and is working with a widower who was lonely and decided to get a large breed puppy. Unfortunately, his car is too small to accommodate the crate his dog will need as an adult, so he will either have to get another car or use a cab to take his dog to the veterinarian. His house apparently has wood floors that do not stand up well to dog claws, and his furniture is highly destructible. He works long hours, and his puppy is from a large, active breed that becomes upset when lonely.

She was originally hired to come in and help him since he had never had a dog before, and he thought a couple of visits would be sufficient. Instead, he wound up having her over everyday for at least a couple of weeks.

Over the years I've had a number of "friends" offer me their unwanted pets. A cuddly Staffordshire terrier who was adopted by someone who was afraid of him after she played tug of war with him and he growled (playing tug of war with bull and terrier breeds isn't a good idea); several spoiled equines, most of them Shetland ponies; vicious Chihuahuas; and one woman who wanted me to "adopt" both a wolf ***** and a fully grown caiman. I have always declined, since I am under the impression that if I wanted a mean, spooky, or dangerous animal I could probably find one without such generous offers - and I have never wished to have mean, spooky, or dangerous animals. I still wonder what possessed the woman who had the caiman and the wolf to get either one of them, let alone both of them. I gather the wolf was a cute cub and hadn't learned it was a wolf yet when she got it; unfortunately, it figured out it was a wolf and behaved like one. I can't even wrap my head around the idea of thinking a caiman would make a good pet. I don't know what kind of caiman it was, but it lived in the garage with an old clawfooted tub and a plastic wading pool, where it spent its day pretending it was a log and hoping someone would come within reach of those jaws.

I'm not perfect, I've messed up with animals and then worked overtime to make it right - but I've never understood anyone getting an animal without thinking it through. I once thoroughly terrified a sweet pony by trying to pull a coat off a pole it was hanging on and having the pole come right down on us - but I immediately tried doing the same thing again, but with the coat set so it couldn't drag the pole over with it until she could begin to trust me again.

 

[cassie]

Sorry, registered horses end up at auction/slaughter all the time. Even pretty colored ones, palominos and paints.

It's just the idea of a rescue, that knows how many unwanted horses there are, advertising to contribute to the problem. Then again, I guess it could be considered drumming up business.

You have a horse slaughterhouse in Oregon? They tried to put in one here in Missouri and people had such a fit the project was put on hold and possibly abandoned. I don't like the idea of slaughtering horses but it is better than the alternative and it would take care of the problem of unwanted horses.

As for horse rescues, when I was in California I tried to find a rescue to take my ancient Percheron mare. I made it clear that I was willing to pay for her feed. None would even call me back. I knew she would not survive the trip to Missouri and I was at a loss as to what to do with her. I didn't want to put her down and my vet refused to do it anyway. Fortunately, she solved the problem herself. She didn't come up for grain one morning and we found that she had died in the same pasture where she was born.

My experience with rescues has not been positive. A lot of them are run by people who know next to nothing about the animals they are trying to rescue and some of them are outright scams.

 

[donrae]

You have a horse slaughterhouse in Oregon? They tried to put in one here in Missouri and people had such a fit the project was put on hold and possibly abandoned. I don't like the idea of slaughtering horses but it is better than the alternative and it would take care of the problem of unwanted horses.

As for horse rescues, when I was in California I tried to find a rescue to take my ancient Percheron mare. I made it clear that I was willing to pay for her feed. None would even call me back. I knew she would not survive the trip to Missouri and I was at a loss as to what to do with her. I didn't want to put her down and my vet refused to do it anyway. Fortunately, she solved the problem herself. She didn't come up for grain one morning and we found that she had died in the same pasture where she was born.

My experience with rescues has not been positive. A lot of them are run by people who know next to nothing about the animals they are trying to rescue and some of them are outright scams.

I don't believe there are any horse slaughter houses in the US. We do have auctions in Oregon with kill buyers that ship to (I believe) Canada--the auction I grew up going to shipped to Mexico as it was closer (that was in Cali).

I would be for humane slaughter of horses, but don't want to get that debate started. My point was a rescue promoting breeding of a rescue horse. Totally irresponsible.

 

[cassie]

I don't believe there are any horse slaughter houses in the US. We do have auctions in Oregon with kill buyers that ship to (I believe) Canada--the auction I grew up going to shipped to Mexico as it was closer (that was in Cali).

I would be for humane slaughter of horses, but don't want to get that debate started. My point was a rescue promoting breeding of a rescue horse. Totally irresponsible.

You are right. I stand corrected,

 

[The Yakima Kid]

You have a horse slaughterhouse in Oregon? They tried to put in one here in Missouri and people had such a fit the project was put on hold and possibly abandoned. I don't like the idea of slaughtering horses but it is better than the alternative and it would take care of the problem of unwanted horses.

As for horse rescues, when I was in California I tried to find a rescue to take my ancient Percheron mare. I made it clear that I was willing to pay for her feed. None would even call me back. I knew she would not survive the trip to Missouri and I was at a loss as to what to do with her. I didn't want to put her down and my vet refused to do it anyway. Fortunately, she solved the problem herself. She didn't come up for grain one morning and we found that she had died in the same pasture where she was born.

My experience with rescues has not been positive. A lot of them are run by people who know next to nothing about the animals they are trying to rescue and some of them are outright scams.

I believe it is still legal to slaughter horses for pet food or for rendering.

I agree completely with Cassie on some of the rescues out there. My friend is still recovering from the loss of her ancient domestic purebred stallion, put down because he allegedly tested out as being a "purebred mustang" and was considered too old to survive as a feral horse. The saddest part was that she had been to them more than once with his picture before they finally admitted that they'd had him and put him down - they hadn't even paid much attention to the picture before because they were completely convinced that the horse they had killed was a "purebred mustang" - a term that is an oxymoron if ever there was one. Even the sheriff's department had contacted them, and they had insisted they hadn't seen him. She got lucky on her last trip out because a volunteer remembered him and talked with her when no one else would do anything other than give her the brush off.

Very few people know that the biggest "advocates" for mustangs are people who are paid literally hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to care for horses brought in off the range. There would be far fewer issues with finding owners for them if people were allowed to have clear title to them, with a ban on selling them for slaughter. I remember when people actually made a living rounding up excess broomtails, training them, and selling them as cow ponies, kid's horses, and such. I remember when many western Indian reservations were full of Indian ponies, and young men in the tribes made a living catching and breaking the ones that weren't claimed by another family. I also remember how they all went off to slaughter or were otherwise removed when the mustang acts were coming in and turned them from a resource for the tribes into a burden. The Dine are trying to build a slaughterhouse because of the excess, starved horses on their reservation; the Dine traditionally eat horses. Unfortunately, silly people see this as somehow "violating" the traditional relationship between the tribes and horses, which only shows that the silly people know squat about either horses or the tribes.

 

[Tammy N]

Have about a half dozen young turkeys 10 to 15 weeks old. Mostly Narragansett / Eeastern Wild cross. 15 each. They are heritage breed birds that thrive in a free range setting. 89508 Shore Crest Drive, Florence. Phone # is 541-902-3125. Thanks for looking, Roy.




This is the guy who sold me Sick birds MG infected turkeys whipped out my show dark brahmas and my older birds told me he would kill the older turkeys for me since i couldnt here and then sold the meat to customers .

he is a bad guy since he knows he has MG

any advice