OK so I didnt over-react .pls make sure y'r kids are safe on the net

OldGuy43

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In this case I have to disagree with you. The facts are that not only did the problem happen in the first place, but the vice-principal didn't see it as a problem. The fact that the police had to be brought into the matter to get a resolution is an indictment of the whole educational system in the OP's area.

That reminds me of a joke I heard long ago; A city slicker is considering buy a mule from a farmer and inquires, "Is this mule obedient?" The farmer says that it is. The slicker pays for the mule and mounts. He than says, "Giddy up." The mule just stands there. Once again, "Giddy up!" Again no response from the mule. "Giddy up!!" the city slicker shouts. Still nothing. The mule just stands there. The city slicker says to the farmer, "I thought you said this mule was obedient?" The farmer responds, "You're doing it all wrong." With that the farmer picks up a 2x4 and smacks the mule right between the eyes. "Now try it." The city fella says, "Giddy up." and the mule trots away. The new mule owner shouts back, "I thought you said he was obedient!" The farmer shouts, "He is! Ya just gotta get his attention first!"

Sometimes, ya just gotta get their attention.
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ChickenAlgebra

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Good job Dar!

I'm actually not on the side of blaming the teacher entirely. Stupid, yes. Bad move, yes. Should know better, yes.

But from the reaction of the entire school and board it sounds like it's a system wide problem. The teacher is just following along with what the school does and feels is fine. So to fix the problem, you go higher up, get someone who has basic common sense in to replace the idiots, then retrain all the people who have been trained that internet safety is not important.
 

Dar

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when we sat down yesterday and spoke rationally about all whats happened... I fell that they (the school board) is going in the right direction... BUT there is a lot of work to be done...

they have a rule no personal information about kids... BUT as we can see the message is not hitting home and the teacher feels or felt that by having the user name of the kids was ok.. so there must have been a gray area in the internet safety training.. the teacher used a sign in name for her that was an aliases but did not think the real names of the kids would be displayed..

so there is going to be some good that comes out of this.. there will be a more in depth internet safety lesson...

also if you know how child sex offenders work the newbie will surf the public domains... you are 100% correct... BUT when that is no longer a thrill they will put themselves in a position where the info gets dropped in their lap... cup scouts... beavers... brownies.... teachers... sports coaches.... camp employees.... I could go on and on... (disclaimer*** i am not saying all these ppl are bad.. please dont misread or misunderstand).. they are PRO"S at this!!!!!!!.. so because there are so many ppl that work from home the tech support guy could be sittin in his jammies watching cartoons while signing you up for that new software you are ordering for your kids.... and the moment you give names a line has been crossed...

so we need to do one of two things.... make sure EVERYONE from the IT guys and gals to the janitor has a criminal background check done... they have the potential of coming into contact with our childrens information will it stop it?.. NO but at least its a step in the right direction and its being proactive rather then sitting on our behinds hoping someone is making sure our kids are safe...

another option is teaching... teach the teachers and admins how to have these resources available for the kids because there is no doubt that they are very useful... no info mean exactly that NO INFO... maybe a part of the internet safety class could be creating safe user names... and secure passwords... gee theres a fun homework assignment... maybe mom and dad will learn too...
 

ChickenAlgebra

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Also, from another stand point...

Identity theft. If full name and location is put out, while it's not as easy to steal an identity as other ways, I suspect those who would do so would have enough information to start. It's "easier" to steal a minor's identity because they aren't working or taking out loans or credit cards, so there aren't as many credit checks and background checks.

I worked in Department of Labor. We saw this DAILY, and fairly high levels of it.
 

kareninthesun

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my youngest son; 1st day school disapoeared. teacher told me later that she had the other first graders stand where she coyld see them while she looked around the inner areas of the classrooms. they found him playing ball 14 minutes later with the 4th graders. didnt contact the school office. she said her first thought was LOOSING her job! teachers are human; but there is a difference between shrugging off warnings from an adult to adult choice and actively pursuing protection of whom we intrust our children. you are my hero!
 

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