ok why is this happening????

[yinepu]

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mine was a steady 45% (with a calibrated hygrometer).. positioned right along with all the others in my brinsea with an auto turner.. so it was handled the same as all the rest.. if mine were a humidity issue more than one egg should have been affected.. but the rest were a clean hatch
lol.. i have hatched a lot of eggs over the years.. so I kinda have the process down now

the egg that i had that didn't hatch didn't even have an internal pip.. the chick was completely formed with no visible defects

 

[Arielle]

Try giving this a read and see if any of these hatching problems fit:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/aa204

While shipping problems usually result in air cell problems and non-starters, the hatchability trouble shooter helps identify the problem based on a number of factors. Hope it helps.

 

[yinepu]

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thanks for the link.. i found this:
"Nutritional deficiencies -- vitamin D, vitamin A, folic acid, or pantothenic acid, riboflavin, vitamin E, selenium, vitamin K, biotin, thiamin, vitamin B12, calcium, phosphorus, manganese, or linoleic acid."
considering i had one chick from the same seller with a very severe case of wry neck.. i would have to put the blame here.. which also goes with them being shipped eggs.. since i have no idea how they have been tending to their birds.. I know what MY birds eat and i have never had a problem with wry neck or late death in eggs.. so it would seem this issue was on the seller's end.

 

[classicsredone]

Aren't there issues being seen with eggs fed vegetarian food? Adding some kind of animal protein helps, but you can't control what another breeder feeds the birds. I guess you could ask prior to purchase, though.

 

[Lacrystol]

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40% I keep mine at 50 to 55% until lock down then it goes up to 60%-65%. Perhaps raising the humidity to 50 would help. Also how many times a day are they getting turned? I turn mine 2 times a day but I have heard, you can turn them 3 times a day won't hurt...

 

[Fleezie]

How is your ventilation?

 

[yinepu]

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40% I keep mine at 50 to 55% until lock down then it goes up to 60%-65%. Perhaps raising the humidity to 50 would help. Also how many times a day are they getting turned? I turn mine 2 times a day but I have heard, you can turn them 3 times a day won't hurt...

I know this wasn't directed at me.. but I'll answer it anyway..

40% humidity should be fine.. after all a lot of people do dry incubation which is lower than 40% and don't have any issues.. besides a lower humidity during incubation for chicks is better than being too high which would cause drowning issues.. and as a note.. when i was a kid we only turned eggs twice a day.. once in the morning and once before bed and had great hatches (lol.. back in the day before auto turners and the only manufactured incubator the average person could get was the "Chick-u-bator")

 

[yinepu]

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I really don't know.. we have never fed a vegetarian diet.. and no idea what the seller fed their layers.. you would think that the manufacturers of vegetarian feeds would make sure that the feeds were nutritionally balanced.
I did ask an Avian vet about wry neck in newly hatched chicks.. they said it IS genetic.. it's where the adult birds who are laying the eggs can not metabolize the vitamins in the feed even though they do eat a balanced diet.. so it's that inability to metabolize feed which is passed on to the chicks (and also since momma can't metabolize the vitamins.. it makes for weak embryos which hatch with wry neck)
I have seen a few cases where adult birds develop wry neck when they have had no previous problems with it.. in their case i would have to say it's due to poor feed or a lack of essential nutrients in whatever they are eating

 

[yinepu]

I believe the OP mentioned that ALL of their chicks died the same way.. which was a little different than what i experienced.. since their eggs were also shipped eggs they have no idea if the seller had wry neck issues in their birds.. since NONE of their eggs hatched we will never know if any of the chicks would have had issues with wry neck.. so it could very well be a nutritional deficiency.. or more likely some sort of contamination issue which could have happened on the seller's end or during incubation... perhaps a good disinfecting of their incubator would be in order then a test hatch with local eggs?.. if the same issues happen again we can assume it's something the OP did wrong.. but if everything comes out fine I would still suspect the shipped eggs being the problem

 

[eggchel]

The chick looks a little underdeveloped in addition to the unabsorbed yolk. Could your incubator temperature have been too low?


Regarding shipping, Ive never had underdeveloped chicks or chicks that failed to absorb their yolks from shipped eggs but I guess it is a possibility.
Most problems that Ive had with shipped eggs have been related to displaced air cells or eggs that failed to develop at all.


I hope that you are able to figure out what is going on. You might get some fertilized eggs from someone locally who has plain old barnyard chickens and test your incubator with those. That would eliminate any shipping or genetic issues and let you know if the problem is with your bator or technique.

Good luck.

Chel