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[Kassaundra]

Kass, I feel so bad for you about your NN babies. You waited sooooo long and were so patient. It's just not fair. Something must not have been right with them before they got sent. Or maybe they hung onto them for too long before sending. It makes you wonder since they had no record of when they were sending them when you talked to them earlier in the week. Those poor tiny babies.



That's how I feel. I had a Cochin boy in with my 4 Cochin girls all of about a week and couldn't take it anymore. They're my favorites and I couldn't stand them being grabbed by the head and violated

. The Modern Bantam boy I have isn't like that at all and he's just got his 1 girl in with him. He's real gentle with her evidently, she doesn't have a feather out of place. Most my other boys border on violent-sheesh. I'd love to get ALL mine caponized. It's bound to cut down on the majority of the behavior. I would imagine even done as an older bird it'd be just like with dogs and cats-it's not *as effective against bad behavior (spraying, lifting their leg, etc) but it still cuts down on 75% of it. That'd be good enough for me. I might call the vet or the vet school and find out about that. I'd even risk losing some in order to get it done.

The big problem w/ caponizing such a grown roo is the risk of bleeding out is very, very, very high. When young the blood supply to the area isn't matured, but at the older ages they have major blood supply to the area in addition to large vessles that are very close to the testes themselves. The tissues that anchor them in place (and supply blood) experience more trauma w/ removal, perhaps w/ skill and cauderizing equipment it might be survivable?



I wasn't going to name the babies until I was more sure they would live, but the smallest has a name if she survives, it is Moxy. There is a large black chick that is a bully about twice her size, but everytime he bullies her, she gives it right back!!!!! (all references to gender are assumptions not based in facts) I bet they are all boys actually!!

Just the way it's been going.

 

[muesky]

*** Official POOPS Wish-list ***​

Just a reminder if you have anything you want or have to offer please PM me and I will get it on the list. Also if you acquire the birds you are looking for or place the birds you have listed available, please let me know so I can update the list.
Wish List for POOPS
Muesky – (of course I am going to post a want, like everyone doesn’t already know. Hehehe!) LF cochin (hens and roosters), white Ameraucana rooster and blue, black, white or splash hens. Oh yeah I need egg cartons, as well.
MJGigix - LF cochin rooster, Bantam Americaunas and egg cartons
Allbreeds - would like a couple of LF Partridge or Lemon Blue Cochin hens
Spunkychickenmomma - Blue or splash Naked Necks hens and rooster also French Black Copper Marans Rooster
Oakieridge – Buff banty cochin hen
Firefly89 - bantam and LF cochins, especially in Splash, Mottled, Mille Fleur, and Columbian, Silkies and pretty feather foots
Old Cowboy - Old Poultry books and magazines. Red Quill, and Black American Gamefowl
BlanchardOK - hens only - silkie, cochin, brahma, sultan, polish
Have List for POOPS
Old Cowboy - 2 1/2 month old Asil stags and pullets. Maybe some 2 1/2 month old Asil bantams, and some Asil, Bantam Asil, NN eggs and a few Lahore pigeons. few old books that I have 2 of that I will be taking to sell or trade
Allbreeds - Two black, one blue and one silver laced LF cochin roosters. The lacing on the SLC is not perfect nor is his tail. The blacks and blue roos are out of Bo Garretts birds.
Allbreeds – Approximately ten call ducks
RetiredArmyWife - Serama house rooster w/ cage
BetsyOK – Silkies and Showgirls (For those of you who have not seen Betsy’s birds they are faboo)
Oakieridge - Will bring some chicks for sure but hope to bring some blue splash/blue andelusion crosses if they turn out cute. Will also bring some hatching eggs of some kind.
Mjgigax - Mille Fleur and Mille Fleur/Mottled chicks, possibly eggs and a Buff Cochin trio – bantam
Upsdayz - bring some Seramas - both silkied and smooth feathered - male and female
Oceanseve - ameraucana chicks, hatching eggs and/or guineas in any form
Nanakat - some extra Aussie/Cochin cross birds for POOPS. These will good brown egg layers and nice meat birds. They will be about 15 weeks old by then. Roos and a few pullets. Some of these are blue.
Nanakat - pure LF Cochin roos and possibly a pair or trio from the eggs from Iowa. These are growing nicely. They are mixed colors....black, blue and splash and are 9 and 6 weeks old now. making them about 15 and 12 weeks old
BlanchardOK - sex unknown pekins was given the ducklings in early Feb
CJarvis - trio maybe two of young Rosecombs. By request only in Black, Blue, maybe splash, and BB Red
*** Okay if you want to include poultry or farm related items to the list , I will add those to the list as well***
34 Days to POOPS

 

[muesky]

Sorry for not posting the Wish/Offer list. Things have been really easy busy and I have not been feeling really great. I will do better in posting the lists.

 

[Ksane]

Wow, that's good information to know, thank you. It sounds like it would be something a vet would have to do and actually put them under and clamp off bleeders like in dog and cat spays/neuters. I suppose if it were the cost of a dog or cat spay I'd do it. The problem would be finding a vet or vet school that did it and did it right.
Don't you just love the one tiny one that has the guts of a big chicken? lol Like Chihuahuas. My daughters 4 lb Chihuahua crawled under the fence took took on my 2 80 lb Golden Retrievers a few yrs ago. He was getting whooped bad when I snatched him up but did it stop him? Nope. He was snapping and snarling at those big dogs all the way into the house lol
I thought you wanted boys because they'd get bigger to process? Or did you want some girls for breeders?
You know, I think it's such a good idea to raise our own meat nowadays. Maybe the softer-hearted ones of us could get together and raise batches of meat birds and process each other's birds? I don't have a problem doing it, it's doing it to birds I've raised myself and babied. But if some of us got a batch of 50 meat birds of the same breed, maybe we could trade our batch with another's batch and just process and keep that batch? Is that going too far? Haha!

 

[Kassaundra]

Wow, that's good information to know, thank you. It sounds like it would be something a vet would have to do and actually put them under and clamp off bleeders like in dog and cat spays/neuters. I suppose if it were the cost of a dog or cat spay I'd do it. The problem would be finding a vet or vet school that did it and did it right.
Don't you just love the one tiny one that has the guts of a big chicken? lol Like Chihuahuas. My daughters 4 lb Chihuahua crawled under the fence took took on my 2 80 lb Golden Retrievers a few yrs ago. He was getting whooped bad when I snatched him up but did it stop him? Nope. He was snapping and snarling at those big dogs all the way into the house lol
I thought you wanted boys because they'd get bigger to process? Or did you want some girls for breeders?
You know, I think it's such a good idea to raise our own meat nowadays. Maybe the softer-hearted ones of us could get together and raise batches of meat birds and process each other's birds? I don't have a problem doing it, it's doing it to birds I've raised myself and babied. But if some of us got a batch of 50 meat birds of the same breed, maybe we could trade our batch with another's batch and just process and keep that batch? Is that going too far? Haha!

This batch I'm wanting to keep only one male and all the females will be divided between the two current EE flocks. That will be two flocks w/ EE and NN's, one flock having an EE roo and the other flock a NN roo. So I can easily choose which eggs I want to incubate (pure EE, pure NN or a combo) those are going to be my caponizing chicks. I probably won't caponize my extra boys from this batch unless it is very obvious which boy I want to keep right off. I may make a trip to Wewoka???? hatchery for a small batch of boys that will be big for caponizing in the next few weeks, depending on how things go w/ learning at Pocco's and how things work out w/ these NN's.

I bet some version of sharing meat chickens could work out. I think moving the chickens would be a lot of work and hard on Cornish x's at that age, but maybe getting together at the place where they were raised and the one who didn't raise them actually doing "the deed" while the other processes, then reversing it at the other person's home. I think that could work out on a couple of levels one of the main ones is positive peer pressure, having to do it by yourself you can think of all kinds of reasons why "not today" but w/ someone else involved you have to "save face" and you wouldn't want to let someone else down or waste their time, etc....

 

[Kassaundra]

Oh I keep meaning to ask how your dubia's and hisser's are doing?

 

[Ksane]

I agree with the "co-butchering". Just having someone there would help a LOT. Maybe a "Processing Get Together" is in order lol! We could all bring our birds, another person would process them while we processed someone else's, then each person would take home the number of birds they brought. We wouldn't have to look our own babies in the eyes and end their lives. We could play music and drink iced tea and it might actually work.

Oh I keep meaning to ask how your dubia's and hisser's are doing?

They're doing awesome! I have lots of babies of both breeds but I haven't counted. It's probably going to be a long time yet before the colonies are stable enough that I can feed them to my chickens but I've been feeding males a couple times a week to 3 of my Oscar fish. It's the perfect food for them. I'd looked high and low for some sort of a breeding colony of June Bugs for my Oscars and never could find any. It hadn't even occurred to me to use roaches. This is perfect.
Oddly enough most of my chickens are scared of them, I guess they're too big and they have to get used to them. The layers yard are a bunch of scavengers though-I give them a few bugs every once in awhile just for the pure comedy of it. One of the smallest ones will grab it and the chase is on with all the big ones running after them

 

[iamthehuffer]

Thanks for the welcome Tony O. So far got 32 quail hatched out of the first batch of 48 eggs ordered. 6 never developed anything, 2- I thought had nothing only to open and find developing embryo. MY BAD. 8 still in the bator but I really don't think they will hatch, it's day 19. 105 to go in second batch from B&D Game Farm - OKIES too. Good people there but due to resolved computer problems a little mixed up on my orders. All straight now They are holding 12 Tennessee Red quail and 12 Ringkneck pheasant eggs for me. No more room in the bator right now. Also have 12 Serama eggs in there from Tinybirds @ BYC. A Great lady to deal with.

 

[mjgigax]

This batch I'm wanting to keep only one male and all the females will be divided between the two current EE flocks. That will be two flocks w/ EE and NN's, one flock having an EE roo and the other flock a NN roo. So I can easily choose which eggs I want to incubate (pure EE, pure NN or a combo) those are going to be my caponizing chicks. I probably won't caponize my extra boys from this batch unless it is very obvious which boy I want to keep right off. I may make a trip to Wewoka???? hatchery for a small batch of boys that will be big for caponizing in the next few weeks, depending on how things go w/ learning at Pocco's and how things work out w/ these NN's.

I bet some version of sharing meat chickens could work out. I think moving the chickens would be a lot of work and hard on Cornish x's at that age, but maybe getting together at the place where they were raised and the one who didn't raise them actually doing "the deed" while the other processes, then reversing it at the other person's home. I think that could work out on a couple of levels one of the main ones is positive peer pressure, having to do it by yourself you can think of all kinds of reasons why "not today" but w/ someone else involved you have to "save face" and you wouldn't want to let someone else down or waste their time, etc....

Cool idea. I'm putting my little Ameraucana hen in with my Cochins. Aren't colored eggs helpful. I don't want to raise Americochins just yet. I want some green eggs and eventually a pen of bantam Ameraucanas.

 

[BlanchardOK]

Thanks for the welcome Tony O. So far got 32 quail hatched out of the first batch of 48 eggs ordered. 6 never developed anything, 2- I thought had nothing only to open and find developing embryo. MY BAD. 8 still in the bator but I really don't think they will hatch, it's day 19. 105 to go in second batch from B&D Game Farm - OKIES too. Good people there but due to resolved computer problems a little mixed up on my orders. All straight now They are holding 12 Tennessee Red quail and 12 Ringkneck pheasant eggs for me. No more room in the bator right now. Also have 12 Serama eggs in there from Tinybirds @ BYC. A Great lady to deal with.

WOW - what are your plans for all those quail? I have a pair right now and looking to add a few more - not for meat but eggs some and just for the fun of it.