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[Ksane]

Lots of times other diseases kick in and take over once they're weakened by the 1st disease. E.coli is one of the worst offenders. All birds have e.coli in their systems. It's just sitting there waiting for some other disease to wear them down so it can slowly kill them. I believe the kindest thing is to let him go. I always feel like I've let them down when I don't have the guts to end their suffering.

 

[lonnyandrinda]

Lots of times other diseases kick in and take over once they're weakened by the 1st disease. E.coli is one of the worst offenders. All birds have e.coli in their systems. It's just sitting there waiting for some other disease to wear them down so it can slowly kill them. I believe the kindest thing is to let him go. I always feel like I've let them down when I don't have the guts to end their suffering.

X2. I have a boy I'm going to let go today- a Crele Orpington cockerel. He came to me sick and I got him better but the infection settled in his eye and he completely lost his eye. Got it better (I thought) but it was bad again yesterday. I'm going to have to put him out of his misery today.

 

[bardies]

X2. I have a boy I'm going to let go today- a Crele Orpington cockerel. He came to me sick and I got him better but the infection settled in his eye and he completely lost his eye. Got it better (I thought) but it was bad again yesterday. I'm going to have to put him out of his misery today.

ok. thanks for the input. Having never done this before - and since I will not be eating him - wouldn't think it would be safe with all the meds in his system... I have heard that pulling sharply up the head will break the neck/spinal chord in such a way to cause an instant/painless? death. Any thoughts on this method?

 

[bardies]

@Kyzmette , How is Orlando doing?

 

[Kyzmette]

And I would feel like I let them down if I didn't do everything in my power to give them the opportunity to fight to stay alive. I always figure that any creature with a survival instinct wouldn't willingly lay their head down for the chopping block, so I wouldn't assume that they would want to be "released" from their state of being. I can never bring myself to understand that thought process. All creatures have the option of laying down and giving up, even human beings, but with humans we have medicine and machines to keep us alive beyond the time we should have gone, even against our will. Unless we're force feeding and watering animals, they will stop struggling and let go when it's time. I will water one of my chickens when it's ill or wounded while it's at that worst point, but then when it gets past that immediate hump, it's on its own to eat or drink. If it won't, then it may be best to let it go, and I will allow it to pass on its own.

But I also have personal experience with a time I can think of where I had thoughts that I wish somebody would have released me from my pain and let me go. I was there waiting for the curtain to roll aside, but was dragged back and kept here, and here I am down the road and thankful for it. I have birds I could have culled after their illness or injuries, and here they are, happy and affectionate and living a good life.

To cull or not to cull is a very personal choice. It's hard to see something or somebody we care about in pain. I don't fault or judge those who cull, and sometimes envy the strength they have to be able to do it. If you can't bring yourself to cull yet, however, don't fault yourself for remembering that there is often life beyond pain and sickness.

 

[artsyrobin]

Bad decision time... I have a breeding rooster that is very sick. He started with respiratory thing... was on cephalexin and ciproflaxin - got better - then got worse wthin a few days of being off meds. Gurgly breathing and swollen side of the face. So went on the pig feed with ctc/ and a generic deneguard in it, + shots of tylan. We finished the shots - swelling went down within a day, but he still gasps to breath - gurgly sound much of the time. NO nasal or eye discharge (although there was a lot of it in the early stages with the swollen face). He is no longer eating or drinking. Just sits there. I have been giving him egg yolk and water via syringe.

I am thinking that it may be time to just end this suffering. Any ideas? I've tried to help things with vetrx, but it does not seem to change anything except possibly burn his wattles and comb. I really really like this guy, and feel horrible that he has gone so long feeling as bad as he has. He has lost a lot of weight over this ordeal - he used to be an armful during the first treatment - and was a real pain too - kicking, etc. Now he is more like skin and bones (well, not quite that bad) and pathetic.

you could try him on albon, which is for bacterial pneumonia and cocci,

Sulfadimthoxine (Albon)
To treat Coccidiosis, Paratyphoid, Fowl Cholera and Infectious Coryza. Sulfadimthoxine is the sulfa drug with the advantage of remaining in high concentrations in the blood for a long time-about 12 hours. If the birds drink twice aday, they will maintain good levels of the drug in the blood. This is not true with the other sulfas, which need to be consumed every 6 hours. Powder: use 1/2 to 1 teaspoon per gallon for 6 days.

http://www.twincitypoultrysupplies.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=492




my girl made it through the nite, now to figure out the puzzle of what is going on with her-if its not one its another

 

[Kyzmette]

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He was standing and responding this morning. He's been drinking, but not eating yet. I'll check the levels on his food tonight and make him mushy egg and yogurt to supplement. I have great hopes for him. Thank you for asking!

 

[bardies]

you could try him on albon, which is for bacterial pneumonia and cocci,

Sulfadimthoxine (Albon)
To treat Coccidiosis, Paratyphoid, Fowl Cholera and Infectious Coryza. Sulfadimthoxine is the sulfa drug with the advantage of remaining in high concentrations in the blood for a long time-about 12 hours. If the birds drink twice aday, they will maintain good levels of the drug in the blood. This is not true with the other sulfas, which need to be consumed every 6 hours. Powder: use 1/2 to 1 teaspoon per gallon for 6 days.

http://www.twincitypoultrysupplies.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=492




my girl made it through the nite, now to figure out the puzzle of what is going on with her-if its not one its another

Thanks for the info! He did the job on his own sometime last night

. But this is useful knowledge for down the road. Glad that yours is still giving you a chance to figure it out. Wish I could help someway - but am feeling pretty stupid chicken healthwise right now.

 

[Tony O]

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[Loriemarler]

I was looking at my new chicks from Atwoods and I think I have a frizzle Cochin. The tips of the feather wings curl up and look frayed a bit.