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[ashtree]

@ashtree the science is in on wryneck. You need to keep up the thiamine B1. There are several vita packs that can be added routinely to the flocks water. I would recommend you keep some on hand. A drop of polyvisol directly into the beak twice a day will see your little guy back on his feet. I would also take a good look at the feed. It may well be lacking in essential vits and minerals.

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/publications/6/diseases-of-poultry/216/vitamin-bi-deficiency

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/pou..._poultry/vitamin_deficiencies_in_poultry.html

http://www.jefferspet.com/avian-super-pack/camid/LIV/cp/AB-P1/cn/36030/

Thank you for all the info and informative links.

 

[Kyzmette]

My chickens are pets, and I love them dearly. I believe that God gave all creatures a desire to survive, and as long as they continue to fight for life, I will be there to help how I can. I practice rigorous biosecurity, but when it comes to stuff brought in from the wild, once one bird gets it, it's likely already in the flock due to incubation times. I use antibiotics, but I'm going to reduce those in the future to dire circumstances, because, in my opinion, it's combatting illness that strengthens a flock, not keeping them from ever getting ill. The weak die, the strong survive. I do not cull. I know some day I may have to, but I just don't see the benefit of culling to a flock, but more a convenience to the owner. I don't condemn those who cull, because this is my flock and that is your flock, but when my birds are pets, killing for convenience isn't going to happen.

That's one thing I love about this thread... we're all quite different, but we all come together in harmony.

Oh, and when I have questions, the Merck manuals are the best resources I've found.

 

[ashtree]

My chickens are pets, and I love them dearly. I believe that God gave all creatures a desire to survive, and as long as they continue to fight for life, I will be there to help how I can. I practice rigorous biosecurity, but when it comes to stuff brought in from the wild, once one bird gets it, it's likely already in the flock due to incubation times. I use antibiotics, but I'm going to reduce those in the future to dire circumstances, because, in my opinion, it's combatting illness that strengthens a flock, not keeping them from ever getting ill. The weak die, the strong survive. I do not cull. I know some day I may have to, but I just don't see the benefit of culling to a flock, but more a convenience to the owner. I don't condemn those who cull, because this is my flock and that is your flock, but when my birds are pets, killing for convenience isn't going to happen.

That's one thing I love about this thread... we're all quite different, but we all come together in harmony.

Oh, and when I have questions, the Merck manuals are the best resources I've found.

Well said! you have some lucky, loved birds

Is the Merck Manual available in print? It's seeming pretty essential

 

[Kyzmette]

Well said! you have some lucky, loved birds

Is the Merck Manual available in print? It's seeming pretty essential

I'm honestly not sure. If you google Merck manual, you'll see that it covers tons of stuff on its website, and it's pretty thorough. If I google symptoms and see a Merck manual entry, I'll typically check it first. It's kind of like a veterinary handbook. It's probably better to access online, because it would be updated frequently as advances allow.

Oh, and while I keep saying I'm no expert, I can say one thing I love to do is research. I'm a troubleshooter and complex root cause resolver at work, so I dig for resolutions all day. At home I can only search on my smartphone, though, so I'm limited but still determined. I find some pretty cool things while digging.

You might like this. I don't print often, but this was worth it.

https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/medicine-chart

Oh, and I started reading this while looking for an answer to the middle toe paralysis puzzle. I thi k anybody with chicks that die mysteriously en masse several days after birth should read this.

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/pou...itis/overview_of_avian_encephalomyelitis.html

 

[artsyrobin]

has anyone dealt with a duck with a misaligned bill? little yogi has some issues showing up, his bill was damaged when i found him, so i noticed today the lower is shifting a bit to the left, i assume damaged in the attack? I'll get a better pic in the morning

 

[Kassaundra]

Had a failure to thrive issue today. I've had my eye on her for nearly a week, really giving her the benefit of a doubt since she was a girl very dark fm and only 2 feather bow tie, but tonight it was just obvious, it wasn't getting better. She presented as lame (later stages s/sx) but it was really her heart. After I did the deed and was looking everything over, when I got the her heart it was just mush, no telling how she was still alive.

 

[Kyzmette]

has anyone dealt with a duck with a misaligned bill? little yogi has some issues showing up, his bill was damaged when i found him, so i noticed today the lower is shifting a bit to the left, i assume damaged in the attack? I'll get a better pic in the morning

Could it be a dislocated jaw from whatever damaged it? You know, they use braces on human babies to reform misaligned bones... would it hurt a duck or chicken to hold the mouth shut overnight over an extended term in order to keep a misaligned beak in position? Like wearing a retainer to realign teeth.

 

[artsyrobin]

i'm googling some, and asking duck folks- one person suggested treating like cross beak in chickens

Kass, i'm sorry she was that bad, so her heart wasn't formed right?

 

[Kassaundra]

i'm googling some, and asking duck folks- one person suggested treating like cross beak in chickens

Kass, i'm sorry she was that bad, so her heart wasn't formed right?

It was formed fine, just very mushy

 

[hotcurltr]

Had a failure to thrive issue today. I've had my eye on her for nearly a week, really giving her the benefit of a doubt since she was a girl very dark fm and only 2 feather bow tie, but tonight it was just obvious, it wasn't getting better. She presented as lame (later stages s/sx) but it was really her heart. After I did the deed and was looking everything over, when I got the her heart it was just mush, no telling how she was still alive.

So sorry. I know you're working hard on trying to continue your old breeding plan.

I like when I do a necropsy and find results. When I don't since I'm no expert I just fell ugh. That's why I alway have a dead bird picked up if it isn't the weekend. Oh, I've been nmeaning to ask you. Do you think my first boy, the birchen could of had an embolism. I don't know if chickens get them or not, but I was thinking about that when you said it was deep bruising.