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[CLSranch]

Amazon carries a lot of that stuff and for antibiotics look at fish antibiotics too which can be had cheaply online

I was wondering about the fish biotics for chickens. I can get them at several feed stores around here (still not far from you LynSage). One in Nowata has them at the counter. I use them for myself if I get sick. So do several neighbors around here.

 

[Matt in Okla]

​I was wondering about the fish biotics for chickens. I can get them at several feed stores around here (still not far from you LynSage). One in Nowata has them at the counter. I use them for myself if I get sick. So do several neighbors around here.

Antibiotics are antibiotics despite what the FDA and those who make money from sickness say. Look at the labels with same company, city of manufacturer and other things.
The dosage and type is what's important. I know nothing about that for chickens. I do know that dosages for aquariums and people are often the same. I've taken them myself and many that are into preparedness stock them. I ain't saying to do it but sometimes you gotta do what's needed.

 

[CLSranch]

I've given it thought on putting it in the water after separating them into sick pens. Haven't needed to really. And was going to suggest it yesterday but sometimes my computer slows down to 1 letter a minute and I just quite typing.

 

[NanaKat]

You might not want to use the poultry vet with his attitude...
It is not a matter of "if he has to..." comply with the feed directive...it is the law. There is paperwork most don't want to devote the time required.

Talk to your feed suppliers. They already know what certificates you need by Jan 1. They might know which vets can help you. For feed, you need the certificate for medicated feeds.

Any livestock vet can take your feed regimen and work with you. A vet that is overseeing cattle feed already knows the ropes.
Write down the feed regimen you follow. Attach copies of the ingredient list from the feed sacks. Make a list of the medications you use with your poultry and why you use them...any off label use needs an explanation.
Then sit down with your vet of choice to get the Certificate you need for your feed suppliers. Most will be 6 month certificates.
Our vet is in Prague and has already distributed information packets to his customers about the feed/medication directive.

Maybe that's where I'm struggling. The feed store told me I will have to drive to Stillwater to pick up meds like Tylan Powder. They will not be a "script store"? I'm so confused by all this. I will gladly drive to Prauge. I've never had to use an antibiotic on my birds until today. It's not something I would normally put in the water.

If the vet will write your script, companies like ValleyVet.com will fill the prescription online for the cost of the product and shipping.
As CSL stated, many products for treating birds can be found at Atwood's, Tractor Supply, some feed stores. There are many knowledgeable people on BYC who can offer advice on treating conditions with antibiotics and medication...as well as when not to medicate.

This past year, several posts were made here about keeping a well stocked medicine cabinet for poultry with meds and supplies.

 

[Matt in Okla]

Another source for supplies
https://www.campingsurvival.com/fish-and-bird-antibiotics.html

 

[NanaKat]

Was at my feed store today...S&S Feed in Shawnee...was told that poultry feed would probably not be regulated by the feed directives...included my medicated chick starter in that blanket statement.
I'm checking the validity of that tomorrow when I call my vet.
I'm thinking this is because I don't sell my birds to others for food consumption.

Fishbiotics can be found at Walmart, PetSmart, and many feed stores. I use both the cephalexen and the amoxicillin for my birds for respiratory issues. I alternate them depending on mucus in the eyes. For the bantams I like to mix with a little water and eye dropper it into the mouth. The large fowl, I wet it and just pop it down the back of their throat followed by a syringe of water dribbled down. Two days of one caplet usually does the trick.
I keep Denegard and Gallimycin on hand as well. I use Corid for coccidiosis. These are diluted in drinking water.

Hog feed with oxytetracycline can be fed to chickens for two weeks to rid them of respiratory symptoms. It is about the same size pellet as layer feed. I don't eat the eggs during this feeding, but can incubate eggs.

For antibiotics, we keep both Tylan 50 and Tylan 200 that I use more with the birds. For cattle we use Agricillin and LA200, but in a pinch, I will use 10 ml shots.

 

[NanaKat]

Have you exposed your old birds to the new ones? I'm so sorry you bought sick birds. I would be pretty upset. There are very few people I would trust to buy birds from because of reasons like this. I wish you lots of luck in dealing with everything.

No, I quarantine everything I've ever bought. They showed no signs of illness when I bought them and it's the first time it's happened. Luck of the draw, I suppose.

If wild birds have access to the feed and water in the pen, then they can slough off virus or infection to your birds. Often the symptoms will be respiratory. This is when I feed the medicated hog pellets with oxytetracycline.
I despise starlings and sparrows!

 

[LynSage]

If wild birds have access to the feed and water in the pen, then they can slough off virus or infection to your birds. Often the symptoms will be respiratory. This is when I feed the medicated hog pellets with oxytetracycline.
I despise starlings and sparrows!

No, they are indoors but I've only had them a week or so. Those hog pellets with oxtetracycline will be by prescription only on Jan 1st. The are under the new VFD regulations. I hope you have a good vet. I do not and I've spent time on the phone with several offices this week. No one does poultry.

 

[LynSage]

This is a list of everything that will be require a vet perception. Chick Starter is Amprolium and is not included.

 

[LynSage]

This is the other list that requires a vet prescription. I may have to drive to Shawnee to see your vet!