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[jcatblum]

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Call oklahoma dept of wildlife...if you get caught with those without a permit it's bad juju

I sat 8 of them in the incubator, other 2 were cracked & he said 2 broke when he hit the nest. They seem to be around day 10 at the latest. The eggs were so smooth. Like marbles. Strombergs sales eastern & rio grande wild turkeys for sale. Doesn't say they are restricted. I will give the wildlife dept a call but doubt I can get a straight answer. Personally not interested in trying to have wild turkeys as pets. The guy that hit the nest felt guilty & said he didn't want to be responsible for the murder of all those babies.

 

[Greybear23]

The spotty ones you have are a Silver Pencil feather pattern, not sure what breed, where did you get them? could be crossed with anything! JMO!!! Lynn

Any ideas on breeds for the above chicks? I think the small blue one is an OEGB, the three buff ones Orpingtons. I have no idea about the two spotty ones. They look similar but one has feathered legs. The one without feathered legs looks a little bit like an OEGB mix but I couldn't get a good picture of her.

 

[jcatblum]

Took 3 people but they say can't incubate any eggs that are found in wild. Personally think it is a tad crazy. The state would prefer to let the eggs get destroyed than have a chance. We have turkey season to remove extra turkeys, so I understand not adding to the population.
Wild turkeys are ok to purchase from mail order companies but not to obtain from the wild. So how do they know the difference & how did strombergs get their feeding stock?

 

[Greybear23]

Something I want to share with all, this works good, I use it on Tomatoes and Rose bushes, use it in the tub to soak, and have used it to settle and upset tummy!!! Use at your own risk, just sharing!!! Lynn

Very interesting article! Thanks for sharing!

From: Martha Davis
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:01 PM
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Subject: [bringbacksimplicity] Epsom salt how to use it



Epsom Salt is a pure mineral compound (magnesium sulfate) in crystal form that gently exfoliates skin and smoothes rough patches. Mixed with your favorite deep conditioner, Epsom Salt helps to add body to hair. Dissolved in a bath, Epsom Salt is absorbed through the skin to replenish the body’s levels of magnesium. Studies indicate this may help to relieve stress in a number of ways, including:

• Raising the body’s level of serotonin, a mood-elevating chemical within the brain that creates a feeling of well being and relaxation.
• Offsetting excess levels of adrenaline generated by pressure and stress; magnesium ions relax and reduce irritability by lowering the affects of adrenaline.
• Helping to regulate the electrical functions that spark through miles of nerves.
• Lowering blood pressure.

Researchers have found that magnesium also increases energy and stamina by encouraging the production of ATP (adenosine triphosphate), the energy packets made in the cells. Experts recommend soaking with Epsom Salt at least three times a week to look better, feel better and have more energy.
Studies show these benefits from the major components of Epsom Salt may:Magnesium:

• Ease stress and improves sleep and concentration
• Help muscles and nerves function properly
• Regulate activity of 325+ enzymes
• Help prevent artery hardening and blood clots
• Make insulin more effective
• Reduce inflammation to relieve pain and muscle cramps
• Improve oxygen use

Sulfates:

• Flush toxins
• Improve absorption of nutrients
• Help form joint proteins, brain tissue and mucin proteins
• Help prevent or ease migraine headaches

From Disabled World
Other medicinal and home uses for Epsom salts include:
Magnesium sulfate paste has been used as an agent for drawing boils and carbuncles. For instance Magnoplasm is a dehydrated mixture of magnesium sulphate and glycerol used for treatment of abscesses, boils and carbuncles. Magnoplasm can be used cold or warmed for easier spreading.

• Epsom of salts is the first-line antidysrhythmic agent for Torsades de pointes in cardiac arrest under the 2005 ECC guidelines.
• Recent studies have shown that magnesium sulfate can be nebulized to reduce the symptoms of acute asthma attacks.
• Intravenous magnesium sulfate may be able to prevent cerebral palsy in preterm babies.
• Magnesium sulfate can also delay labor in the case of premature labor, to delay Preterm birth.
• Users of Epsom Salts in the gel form can be used for reduction of pain associated with fybromyalgia and osteoporosis.
• It has been shown that both magnesium and sulphate are absorbed through the skin when bathing in 1% solution of Epsom salts.
• Epsom salts can be used to treat pre-eclampsia in pregnant women.
• Epsom of salts solution has also been used to remove blemishes and acne when applied in poultice form.
• Soaking in a bath with added Epsom salts can soothe muscle aches and pains and help improve rough patches in the skin.

From Salt Works:

• Researchers and physicians report that raising your magnesium levels may: Improve heart and circulatory health, reducing irregular heartbeats, preventing hardening of the arteries, reducing blood clots and lowering blood pressure.

• • Epsom Salt improves the body’s ability to use insulin, reducing the incidence or severity of diabetes.
• • Epsom Salt flushes toxins and heavy metals from the cells, easing muscle pain and helping the body to eliminate harmful substances.
• • Epsom Salt improves nerve function by regulating electrolytes. Also, calcium is the main conductor for electrical current in the body, and magnesium is necessary to maintain proper calcium levels in the blood.
• • Epsom Salt relieves stress. Excess adrenaline and stress are believed to drain magnesium, a natural stress reliever, from the body. Magnesium is necessary for the body to bind adequate amounts of serotonin, a mood-elevating chemical within the brain that creates a feeling of well being and relaxation.
• While increasing your magnesium levels, TheraSoak – Epsom salt also delivers sulfates, which are extremely difficult to get through food but which readily absorb through the skin. Medical research indicates sulfates are needed for the formation of brain tissue, joint proteins and the mucin proteins that line the walls of the digestive tract. Sulfates also stimulate the pancreas to generate digestive enzymes and help to detoxify the body’s residue of medicines and environmental contaminants.

Recipes
1.) Relaxing and sedative bath:

• Soak in warm water and 2 cups of epsom salt. note of caution: Do not take an epsom salt bath if you have high blood pressure or a heart or kidney condition.

Basic Salt Soak Bath Formula
Minerals and salts make the bath water feel silky and leave your skin cleansed and soft.
1 cup sea salts
2 cups baking soda
1 cup Epsom salts
1 to 2 tablespoons glycerin per bath
Combine the sea salts, baking soda, and Epsom salts in a bowl. Stir to blend. Pour 1/4 cup or so into the bath while the tub is filling. Add 1 to 2 tablespoons glycerin to keep your skin from drying out (more for dry skin, less for oily skin) and essential oils of choice.
Preparation time: 2 to 3 minutes
Shelf life: Indefinite
Storage: Glass jar with a screw top
2.) Face cleaner: To clean your face at night, mix a half-teaspoon of epsom salt with your regular cleansing cream. Just massage into skin and rinse with cold water.
3.) Homemade skin mask: Apply the mask to damp skin. For normal to oily skin, mix 1 tablespoon of cognac, 1 egg, 1/4 cup of non-fat dry milk, the juice of 1 lemon, and a half-teaspoon of epsom salt. For normal to dry skin, mix 1/4 cup of grated carrot, 1 1/2 teaspoons of mayonnaise and a half-teaspoon of epsom salt.
4.) Foot soak: Soothe aches, remove odors and soften rough skin with a foot soak. Add 1/2 cup of epsom salt to a large pan of warm water. Soak feet for as long as it feels right. Rinse and dry.
5.)Skin exfoliator: Massage handfuls of epsom salt over your wet skin, starting with your feet and continuing up towards the face. Have a bath to rinse.
6.) Remove excess oil from hair: Epsom salt soaks up excess oil from hair. Add 9 tablespoons of epsom salt to 1/2 cup of oily hair shampoo. Apply one tablespoon of the liquid to your hair when it is dry; rinse with cold water. Pour lemon juice or organic apple cider vinegar through the hair, leave on for 5-10 minutes, and then rinse.
7.) To add fullness to thin hair, combine equal parts of Epsom salts and hair conditioner. Warm the mixture in a pan then work it into hair. Leave on for 20 minutes and rinse with warm water.
8.) Remove hairspray: Combine 1 gallon of water, 1 cup of lemon juice, and 1 cup epsom salt. Combine, cover and let set for 24 hours. The next day, pour the mixture into your dry hair and let it sit for 20 minutes. Then shampoo as normal.
9.) Hair volumizer: Combine equal parts of deep conditioner and epsom salt. Warm in a pan. Work the warm mixture through your hair and leave on for 20 minutes. Rinse.
10.) Soak sprains and bruises: Epsom salt will reduce the swelling of sprains and bruises. Add 2 cups epsom salt to a warm bath, and soak.
INGREDIENTS
1 cup borax
2 cups Epsom salts
½ cup coarse sea salt
¼ cup baking soda
¼ cup white clay
½ cup dried lavender
10 drops lavender essential oil

• 1. In a large bowl, mix together the borax, salts, baking soda, and clay, then mix in the dried lavender, stirring with a wire whisk.
• 2. Scent the mixture with the oil, mixing well with the whisk. Cover the bowl with a towel and leave overnight to fix the scent.
• 3. In the morning, thoroughly mix again and package in jars, zip-seal or muslin bags, or envelopes.

To Use: Add ¼ to ½ cup healing salt crystals to a tubful of warm water
11.) Splinter remover: Soak in epsom salt, it will draw out the splinter.
12.) For occasional constipation or irregularity, adults can mix 2 to 4 teaspoons into water until dissolved and drink. Kids 6 to 12 take half of that. This can be used twice a day by taking the first treatment, waiting 4 hours and taking the second dosage if necessary. (Check with Doctor First)
13.) In The Garden

• Houseplants: 2 tablespoons per gallon of water; feed plants monthly.
• Tomatoes: 1 tablespoon per foot of plant height per plant; apply every two weeks.
• Roses: 1 tablespoon per foot of plant height per plant; apply every two weeks. Also scratch 1/2 cup into soil at base to encourage flowering canes and healthy new basal cane growth. Soak unplanted bushes in 1/2 cup of Epsom Salt per gallon of water to help roots recover. Add a tablespoon of Epsom Salt to each hole at planting time. Spray with Epsom Salt solution weekly to discourage pests.
• Shrubs (evergreens, azaleas, rhododendron): 1 tablespoon per 9 square feet. Apply over root zone every 2-4 weeks.
• Lawns: Apply 3 pounds for every 1,250 square feet with a spreader, or dilute in water and apply with a sprayer.
• Trees: Apply 2 tablespoons per 9 square feet. Apply over the root zone 3 times annually.
• Garden Startup: Sprinkle 1 cup per 100 square feet. Mix into soil before planting.
• Sage: Do not apply! This herb is one of the few plants that doesn’t like Epsom Salt.

 

[Ksane]

Ksane, I have only named the ones I know I'm not eating, Reba I am 99 % sure is female, Shakespear will be my flock roo, and Ms. White while I'm sure she is a boy, I'm holding out hope that she is a girl, if so YIPEE, if not Poco will take him back for breeding since he is so big and has such a bare neck. I have name ideas if any of the rest are girls, the barred ones will be shakesperian women, and the black ones will be female names associated w/ E. A. Poe.

Oh good, that makes me feel better. I don't think I'll be any good at attempting to process someday if I can't even stand the thought of you processing!

And here's the happy couple. I'm pretty sure this little boy has something wrong with his legs (hence the awkward waddle).But he doesn't need perfect legs at my house so it's all good.

 

[GracefulBantams]

Does anyone in Duncan (or really close to it) and Buff Orpington hens for sale? There is a guy who I work with who's family was given a Buff Opr rooster that has become a pet. They really want to get some hens for him so they can raise more (they have a small farm with other chickens already)

 

[johnorem]

Greybear23 Very interesting, thanks for posting it. I have used it to soak critters feet when they had abscesses between their toes. My mother would make me soak my feet in it whenever I stepped on a nail as a child. Seems like I was forever stepping on nails, I never got infected but I am sure I received more tetanus shots than what is recommended nowadays.

 

[Kassaundra]

Awesome info on epsom salts, I do some of it, but a lot of the info was new to me.

 

[Oakieridge]

Thanks for the info on Epson Salts, just justifies my soaking in the tub more often, lol. I do take Magnisium daily to help with blood pressure issues and with kidney stones.


Mitzi, they look like such a cute couple!!! Nathanael got a little roo from the auction he is working on taming. It is a bit spastic and not used to being handled clearly. I will have to get pictures of him soon. He needs a bath but I didn't have time to give him one on Sunday so it will have to wait for Friday.


Christina that is crazy on the turkey eggs!!! It isn't like you went out looking for wild turkey eggs to put in your incubator because you are so low on eggs avail to hatch! LOL

 

[bfrancis]

Took 3 people but they say can't incubate any eggs that are found in wild. Personally think it is a tad crazy. The state would prefer to let the eggs get destroyed than have a chance. We have turkey season to remove extra turkeys, so I understand not adding to the population.
Wild turkeys are ok to purchase from mail order companies but not to obtain from the wild. So how do they know the difference & how did strombergs get their feeding stock?

First, I'm proud of you for doing the right thing...I'm going to try to answer your questions...but I'm not wanting to cause an argument...

The reason any organization can sell North American native animals is they do have a wildlife permit. It's not their job to say they're restricted, because every state is different. I can tell you for the state of Oklahoma, anything that is native needs a permit. Kansas for instance, only requires permit for species native to that state. The way they would know the difference is when OK dept of Wildlife came to your door they would do two things, ask you for your sales receipt and then ask to see your permit. Heavy fines could be incurred for "keeping State's wildlife".

Although you were trying to help the guy out who felt bad for the eggs, which is good and I might have been inclined to do the same, most people would not want wild eggs in any incubator or hatcher. The types of disease that those things could bring in could devastate any domesticated poultry.

So yes, unfortunately, the state would prefer the eggs get destroyed.

You could apply for a rehabilitator license so you could hatch native eggs in the future. Here is the link to that as well as other wildlife licensing http://wildlifedepartment.com/license/other.htm

Hope this helps.