Okies in the BYC The Original

[poultryand bees]

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After the ice storms in '07, many of our friends in Eastern Oklahoma had to replace evergreens, because the tops of the older trees broke out of them from the ice. Depending on how many you need to replace, you might consider checking with the Oklahoma Forestry Department and getting Oklahoma grown seedlings from them. They are very inexpensive, but you have to buy a minimum of 100 bare rooted seedlings or 50 potted seedlings. They are for wildlife enhancement purposes rather than for ornamental purposes, but I think anyone who is trying to improve habitat for deer and/or honeybees would qualify.
http://www.forestry.ok.gov/conservation-seedlings

Edited to add: If you decide to go with the seedlings, avoid Orange Osage, since their thorns can puncture tires and boots.

I like the name Percival - loved the Harry Potter books. I think the name fits a bossy chicken very well. Hope he works out well for your breeding program.

 

[Buster52]

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Hey Buster,

To claim the "Label Rouge" title you have to maintain your flock a certain way, feed a certain way, process a certain way, etc... Those NN are probably a line that were worked to produce meat, but they do not look any different than some of the NN I have seen. They can come with white skin or yellow. I think Label Rouge prefers a white skin.

As with wine Label Rouge refers to a region in France plus all that Tara posted too. As with sparkling wine it can not be labeled Champagne unless it comes from the Champagne region of France.

Thanks to both of you. I'm really more interested in the birds' genetics that apparently make them unusual as meat birds, than I am about labeling them anything. I'm thinking this is yet another breed to add to my meat bird experiment, if I can even find them. Apparently Downing Family Farm near Grove raises bunches of them.

Thanks for the help.

 

[poultryand bees]

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Thanks for letting us know. If you decide to buy from him, please post a picture of your fairy princess incubator.

 

[Sooner]

Good afternoon everyone! I had trouble with my laptop this morning so I am hoping I have fixed it.

We just got back from town, needed more peanut butter to make another batch of no bake cookies, the kids wiped them out.

POCO my pens are a mess too. One is so bad that I had to go make little ditches to get the water from standing at the entrance. I was in coveralls & got heated up pretty quick! I have word out to the tree trim guys that I need a load dumped here, hope they do it soon.

 

[Cuban Longtails]

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As with wine Label Rouge refers to a region in France plus all that Tara posted too. As with sparkling wine it can not be labeled Champagne unless it comes from the Champagne region of France.

Thanks to both of you. I'm really more interested in the birds' genetics that apparently make them unusual as meat birds, than I am about labeling them anything. I'm thinking this is yet another breed to add to my meat bird experiment, if I can even find them. Apparently Downing Family Farm near Grove raises bunches of them.

Thanks for the help.

It would be awesome if you could get some. I think there are rules against selling them as lives, though. Much like the folks that contract to breed for cornish x and the big broiler birds. Best of luck!

 

[Buster52]

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It would be awesome if you could get some. I think there are rules against selling them as lives, though. Much like the folks that contract to breed for cornish x and the big broiler birds. Best of luck!

Well, someone from Downing farm posted to the NewOK-Pioneers list that they order between 500 and 700 birds every couple of weeks and offered to let others piggyback on their order. If I get too desperate I might take them up on the offer and just travel up to Grove to pick them up.

I really would like to find the perfect meat bird that breeds true and that I could reproduce on my place. I like my Dark Cornish fine, but want to investigate all the possibilities. I'm running several tractors this spring with different meat birds in them, including Cornish X, Freedoms Rangers, Buckeys, my DCs, and now these.

It is one thing to read other people's opinions, quite another to see for yourself. Thanks for the well wishes.

 

[nnbreeder]

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It would be awesome if you could get some. I think there are rules against selling them as lives, though. Much like the folks that contract to breed for cornish x and the big broiler birds. Best of luck!

Well, someone from Downing farm posted to the NewOK-Pioneers list that they order between 500 and 700 birds every couple of weeks and offered to let others piggyback on their order. If I get too desperate I might take them up on the offer and just travel up to Grove to pick them up.

I really would like to find the perfect meat bird that breeds true and that I could reproduce on my place. I like my Dark Cornish fine, but want to investigate all the possibilities. I'm running several tractors this spring with different meat birds in them, including Cornish X, Freedoms Rangers, Buckeys, my DCs, and now these.

It is one thing to read other people's opinions, quite another to see for yourself. Thanks for the well wishes.

Buster you can cross a Nn with any other breed of bird and get about a 50-75% ratio of NNs to feather necked birds. As far as a meatie what I was thinking was a first cross of NN and Jersey Giant and then taking the offspring and crossing to either an O-Shamo or another big Oriental Game. If you delolop two lines and then cross back and forth later on to set the traits you want.

When breeding NNs to NNs outcrosses must be made every few generations to keep the body type right. In about four or so generations the birds will start getting "crow headed" and smaller in size plus the mortality rate of chicks and "dead in the shell" will go way up too. That is why the NN genes were always considered to be fatal genes.

 

[FunChick]

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what kind you lookin for?

Well, I'm ordering dark brahmas from Ideal, but I need another layer now (poor Lucky the black sex link is the only one laying right now). I'd like a partridge rock or two for the layer flock.

Vern wants partridge rocks too--I think they would fit in nicely here!

 

[FunChick]

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You need a good livestock guardian dog ... pyrenees, anatolian shepherd or komondor

Or two or four.

Only one problem with that: My husband wants to feed the deer on our place (can anyone say bambi burgers!?) and we can't have a dog here that would chase them off---other than that I would LOVE to have a big dog...

 

[Slightly Cracked]

I visited with Queen Scoot just a bit ago. I ask her what kind of rooster she wanted, and she wants something that clam, nice and can be a pet. I thought cochin, langshan, or brahama. I LOVE

Roo Roo the langshan rooster that I got from Cuban. So if anyone can help me out on this it would be appreciated.

It is so pretty outside, the snow everywhere and gentle flakes a falling. I realize that this weather stinks to deal with having critters but it sure is pretty to look at!