Monty, I would dearly love to know who you sold those Copperback Doms to, I want some Doms and they sound like they would fit the bill, Les I think the white fluf would likely be from the Hatch line, but there are so many different varient in gamecocks it is really hard to isolate a certain gene or whatever to that they would all come out like say a line of White Leghorns are ste up, too many people don't breed for colr correctness, they may like red birds with white legs or green legs or not like pure white birds or black birds, it is all a matter of prefforence I think, Lynn