Once again treating my roo's legs for ????

[Dar]

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What is the active ingredient of that treatment, do you know?

Permethrin is the active ingredient

I used the Nix (thats the brand name here in Canada) CREAM it has a 5% mix... The 30g tube was $25 and that 1 tube treated 20 chickens... I treated 1X and it was done... its worth a try


this is what I just copied from another site:

In agriculture, permethrin is mainly used on cotton, wheat, maize, and alfalfa crops, and is also used to kill parasites on chickens and other poultry. It is also extensively used in Europe as a timber treatment against wood boring beetle (woodworm). Its use is controversial since, as a broad-spectrum chemical, it kills indiscriminately; as well as the intended pests, it can harm beneficial insects including honey bees, aquatic life,[3] and small mammals such as mice.

remember to use gloves when applying it to the chicken... you dont want to treat you at the same time...lol

 

[gritsar]

Quote:
What is the active ingredient of that treatment, do you know?

Permethrin is the active ingredient

I used the Nix (thats the brand name here in Canada) CREAM it has a 5% mix... The 30g tube was $25 and that 1 tube treated 20 chickens... I treated 1X and it was done... its worth a try


this is what I just copied from another site:

In agriculture, permethrin is mainly used on cotton, wheat, maize, and alfalfa crops, and is also used to kill parasites on chickens and other poultry. It is also extensively used in Europe as a timber treatment against wood boring beetle (woodworm). Its use is controversial since, as a broad-spectrum chemical, it kills indiscriminately; as well as the intended pests, it can harm beneficial insects including honey bees, aquatic life,[3] and small mammals such as mice.

remember to use gloves when applying it to the chicken... you dont want to treat you at the same time...lol

Thanks. We can get Nix here over the counter as a treatment for head lice.
Pine Grove responded and we'll see where that goes.

 

[Dar]

make sure the Nix is the 5% for scabies and its the cream.... the lotion for head lice is only 1%

 

[Wynette]

Kat, what did Pine Grove have to say? Would you please ask that member to post in here so we can all benefit?

My guy (Duke) has been living in a breeder cage apart from his girls since September. He gets 2 hours a day with one girl, and his legs actually seem to be doing better, but they are still not right. I'll get a pic & post in here.

I had lengthy e-mail conversations with a very experienced member who no longers posts who thought that I might be dealing with a mite that actually lives inside the feather shaft, since the feathers on Duke's feet seem to keep cracking off at the base. She indicated these mites are NOT scaley leg mites, these guys actually enter through a wound and live their entire lives INSIDE the feather shafts, eating the keratin. There is no cure. However, if this was the case, I would think that even though they enter through a wound, eventually one of the others in the pen would get them?

I have been unable to treat Duke due to weather with the treatment the member recommended, which was Virkon(s) soaks along with....gosh I can't remember the name of the other stuff, but Kat, you probably do! It's sitting at home on my counter top. Anyway, she told me if it's fungal OR bacterial OR viral, this should cure it. Our weather has recently stabilized to the point where I'm comfortable treating him, so I may begin treatment soon. I had to leave my guy separated because the girls picked his legs/feet to the point they were bloody and I sure didn't want him to go through that again!!

 

[gritsar]

Hmmm, I dunno. This may sound bizarre, but if it was a mite that lives in the feather shaft, why not pluck all the feathers on the feet? Before treatment of course.
The answer I got from Pine Grove makes more sense, since no treatments seem to work. At any rate, wouldn't smothering the feet with vaseline every night for WEEKS kill this mite?
It's just all confusing to me!

 

[Wynette]

The mite I was told my boy MIGHT have cannot be killed since it lives INSIDE the actual feather shaft. There is no cure...you must cull. I was told to pluck a feather from his feet & take it to my avian vet for a confirmation of whether or not that is it, but frankly, I cannot get out of my avian vet for less than $50...even if I walk in with a sample like this for testing...and I just don't have that amount of money to spend like this. Sigh...

 

[kathyinmo]

What did Pine Grove say about it?

Awwww, gezzzzz Wynette and gritsar .... I sure hope you don't have to cull.

Here's hoping you find some good news.

 

[ArizonaNessa]

I reckon my comment won't be of much help but for all it's worth I don't think this is mites at all. What it is I have no clue. A friend of mine had 3 buff orpington roos with feet exactly like that. No crusties, no raised scales, just big fat swollen deformed feet. Now I have never had a bird with this condition but I use pine shavings. My friend's coop was a soft powdery dirt. Again I don't know if that had anything to do with it. Another thing I noticed about her roosters was that the nails would not stop or slow in growth. She had to literally clip their nails almost weekly. She tried everything I could think of from vaseline to vitamins and everything in between. The poor boys lived a really long time but I think that it was one of the factors of their death in the end.

I hope that you find a solution. No one likes to have to cull a bird. Hmmmm, I just wonder what preparation H would do? At this point one more thing couldn't hurt.

 

[gritsar]

Nessa, to answer your question first. I use pine shavings in my coop, but my birds are rarely in the coop. They free range all day long on green pasture and the forest floor.
I've never had to clip Thor's nails and in fact, two of them are black; like dead, but haven't fallen out.
I am still exchanging PMs with Pine Grove about the problem, asking questions and answering others. Pine Grove suspects gout, which is incurable. If I get a pretty definitive diagnosis and it turns out Thor is going to be in considerable pain - it's so hard to judge an animal's pain, they are so good at hiding it as part of their survival - I will cull him. Otherwise he will live out his natural life with us, as I have always intended.

 

[ArizonaNessa]

I am very interested in learning what you find out if you do. I am always up for learning new things so that I am able to help others(as well as myself) when the time arises.