opinions on diatomaceous earth?

[ConPollos]

My point is that if it was such a good "natural" wormer, horse, cat and dog people would be all over it.

-Kathy

I was a racehorse groom, and some horse people are all over it. I rescue dogs and own 13 of them, and I am all over it. Haven't tried it on my cat for some reason, but I will start today.

 

[casportpony]

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Quote: None of the horse people I know, and none of the horse vets, including those at the track would recommend it.

Keep in mind that some race track people take bute, lol.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

"The results of this study indicate the DE has the potential to be an effective treatment to help control parasites and improve production of organically raised, free-range layer hens."

No where in that study does it say that it's an effective "treatment".

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Quote: Next time you rescue a dog, have a fecal done,. then treat with DE if needed, have another fecal done and report the results.

-Kathy

 

[ConPollos]

Next time you rescue a dog, have a fecal done,. then treat with DE if needed, have another fecal done and report the results.

-Kathy

Okay.

Did you know that the modern heartworm treatment with the Imiticide and keeping the dog crated does not kill all the heartworms?

 

[casportpony]

Quote: I know very little about treating heartworms in dogs as I haven't had to.

-Kathy

 

[Akrnaf2]

 

If DE was an effective wormer, people would be giving it to their horses, right?... and to the best of my knowledge, they aren't..


-Kathy

We have been in this situation enough times to know each other opinion, I respect yours,

but you can't say categorically that DE is not working.

Yes I agree that it isn't as affective as Valbasen, but it is an option for people

that doesn't want to use chemicals.

A reduction in "fecal egg count", even if it's significant, is just a reduction... I prefer egg counts of zero.

-Kathy

Reed this article and you will see that even with your "precious" Valbazen (= albendazol ) get efficiency in between 48% to 100% depend the worm species. So yo can't 0 count every time!
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00901337/document

See page 312 left column second paragraph.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: A reduction in "fecal egg count", even if it's significant, is just a reduction... I prefer egg counts of zero.

-Kathy
Reed this article and you will see that even with your "precious" Valbazen (= albendazol ) get efficiency in between 48% to 100% depend the worm species. So yo can't 0 count every time!
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00901337/document

See page 312 left column second paragraph.
That was albendazole at 5mg/kg, right? How about when it's given at 20mg/kg or when fenbendazole is given at 50mg/kg for five days?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Albendazole given just one day at 5mg/kg is *not* the most effective dose. For those that are curious, 5mg/kg of Valbazen for a five pound chicken is only 0.1 ml. Don't most people give five times that?

-Kathy

 

[shortgrass]

Next time you get a new animal, take it to the vet and have a fecal done. Treat with DE, then show repeat fecal and show the results..

-Kathy

Sure! I assume you'll pay for it? I'm sure you have the resources to do that for yourself; but it HAS to be a controlled experiment. You want 100% eggs, worms, pathogens, mites, lice, microbes, and any kind of living organism eradicated I assume.... I would not recommend having animals if it takes that many toxins to make your birds "clean"..... Not to mention not being able to eat eggs or the chickens until it clears out of their system... It's WAY off topic, but chronic wasting disease cones to mind when things get out of whack like that.. Just wasting money on wormers and sevin and ddt or whatever is the newest " fad" since the last one is no longer affective.... No thanks. I pay 50 bucks and it'll last 6 months, and i can even sprinkle DE on my dinner ROFL...