Oregon

[Tammy N]

Quote: Leslie get all your birds at once from the same breeder and Please DO NOT let anyone with foul into your area I just learned a Very hard Lesson . I have to restart from new my show Brahmas all have an Upper Resp Due to just someone walking back into my yard who wanted to see what the juniors would look like when they where older ,. BIG mistake on my part one i will not make again . i was culling off Birds by selling the ones that where not as close to perfect 3 flaws out deal with out having to butcher them later . well now i eat all culls will only buy eggs and wont go anywhere WE WILL BE CLOSED. i will trust no one no matter how sad their story is . just some advice you do not have to listen but i not only have good money into my birds i have good time and genetics and really loved them ................ Good luck

 

[LeslieDJoyce]

Leslie get all your birds at once from the same breeder and Please DO NOT let anyone with foul into your area I just learned a Very hard Lesson . I have to restart from new my show Brahmas all have an Upper Resp Due to just someone walking back into my yard who wanted to see what the juniors would look like when they where older ,. BIG mistake on my part one i will not make again . i was culling off Birds by selling the ones that where not as close to perfect 3 flaws out deal with out having to butcher them later . well now i eat all culls will only buy eggs and wont go anywhere WE WILL BE CLOSED. i will trust no one no matter how sad their story is . just some advice you do not have to listen but i not only have good money into my birds i have good time and genetics and really loved them ................ Good luck 

Your story is definitely one that has influenced me. None of my current birds are special (except sentimentally), so at this point I'd be more concerned about the trio I hope to buy to start with ... How do I protect THEM from my existing flock? I have some time to think about it, so am hoping to set up a nice quarantine area here. I'm selling some ducks, so the quarantine area can be used for them first -- with a paved viewing area so potential buyers don't have to go back where the rest of the birds live or walk through my coop. Then the trio can live there for a while.

Still planning, though ...

 

[BGMatt]

Leslie get all your birds at once from the same breeder and Please DO NOT let anyone with foul into your area I just learned a Very hard Lesson . I have to restart from new my show Brahmas all have an Upper Resp Due to just someone walking back into my yard who wanted to see what the juniors would look like when they where older ,. BIG mistake on my part one i will not make again . i was culling off Birds by selling the ones that where not as close to perfect 3 flaws out deal with out having to butcher them later . well now i eat all culls will only buy eggs and wont go anywhere WE WILL BE CLOSED. i will trust no one no matter how sad their story is . just some advice you do not have to listen but i not only have good money into my birds i have good time and genetics and really loved them ................ Good luck

Should probably listen to dak over in the Brahma thread. Respiratory disease can be very lethal, but survivors can recover quite nicely and have years of healthy chicks, and more importantly be part of a very healthy flock and breeding program.

 

[Corona~Barb]

Re: Broadbreasted turkeys - They have to be artificially inseminated, as they cannot breed naturally. I've never heard of eggs being available. The poults are readily available at feed stores. The closest you could come would be someone who allows a BB hen to breed with a heritage tom...and take the eggs away so she doesn't smash them. ;-) BBs are the turkey equivalent of Cornish X meat chicken as far as eating and growing.

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[LeslieDJoyce]

Re: Broadbreasted turkeys - They have to be artificially inseminated, as they cannot breed naturally.  I've never heard of eggs being available.  The poults are readily available at feed stores.  The closest you could come would be someone who allows a BB hen to breed with a heritage tom...and take the eggs away so she doesn't smash them. ;-)  BBs are the turkey equivalent of Cornish X meat chicken as far as eating and growing.

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Last year our BBBs were able to mate and laid eggs that were fertile, but we didn't hatch them. I wonder what we would have gotten if we had. I'm not sure they breed true if they do manage to mate.

The batch we have this year don't seem as agile as last year's batch. I'm not sure they will do as well as they get bigger.

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: Leslie you can get some great flat boxes at the post office that will fit pie plates and stack Nicely LOL .
i write date and what type of pie just found one from last chicken soup i made i also use the half Gallon milk Jugs for my soup i cut top off one figure out 2 people and put a gallon freezer bag in pour cooled soup in the bag thats in the half gallon jug and let freeze . bags have perm markers with name and date and then once frozen stack Nicely in freezer . I forgot you can remove the Jug once frozen and stack on side like a nice little Brick of soup..also i have a friend that Color coats her soup type Red for beef yellow for chicken and green for turkey she used the Twist tyes on Bread .

 

[Corona~Barb]

Last year our BBBs were able to mate and laid eggs that were fertile, but we didn't hatch them. I wonder what we would have gotten if we had. I'm not sure they breed true if they do manage to mate.

The batch we have this year don't seem as agile as last year's batch. I'm not sure they will do as well as they get bigger.

Well since they artificially inseminate them, I don't see why they wouldn't breed true (they actually had a segment of "Dirty Jobs" or whatever it's called on this) Usually the tom's breast is too large for him to reach touchdown. And if he does get the job done, I've read of BB hens being so large, they smash the eggs while trying to brood them. If your BBs seem to have some leg issues, better to process sooner than later. I had a tom break his leg at the hip before we could get it done.

Barbara

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: LOL Touch Down OMG i just spit out my coffee

 

[LeslieDJoyce]

Well since they artificially inseminate them, I don't see why they wouldn't breed true (they actually had a segment of "Dirty Jobs" or whatever it's called on this)  Usually the tom's breast is too large for him to reach touchdown.  And if he does get the job done, I've read of BB hens being so large, they smash the eggs while trying to brood them.  If your BBs seem to have some leg issues, better to process sooner than later.  I had a tom break his leg at the hip before we could get it done.  

Barbara

We are starting to process the less agile toms now -- they are certainly big enough. The hens all went on a field trip today, over to the other side of the barnyard to feast on fallen apples ... so they don't have any mobility issues. Silly girls. We got the toms to call to them so they could find their way home. It was cute.

Last years batch of BBBs were speed racers -- they had a circuit all over this end of the property. It was our first time with turkeys and we were spoiled by them. I thought they'd be tough because they were so active and big, but they were delicious. And the hens were very accommodating for the mating. Like watching two planets hug. The first time I saw it I knew to look for eggs. She hid them well! We had turkey eggs Thanksgiving morning.

About the breeding... I wasn't sure if the BBBs were a hybred, so wouldn't breed true. And I was under orders to not hatch them anyway.

Imagine being a turkey fertilizer. Yeesh. I gather the standard Rouen ducks also have breeding issues due to the deep keel on the males.

 

[Suzierd]

I know i have been fighting with what i am going to have to do I hate myself for it all i did was trust a Jerk on my property. i am trying to do the right thing and asking here Do i kill off my Dark Brahmas ? i do not want to but i also want to improve the breed . Does the Upper resp carry over to eggs ? I really do need advice if it does i have 200 chicks i also have to do in, 
I am kinda swinging that way but i have to know its the right thing to do my heart is broken and to be honest if i ever see this man again i may just break his nose . Tammy

I would make sure you know exactly what your dealing with before you make a decision. If you have a really sick bird or one dies you should have a necropsy done, then you can decide what's best.