Oregon

[Tammy N]

When i Had Pigs Sows i had to AI the Darn thing was 3 ft long cork screw i was in shock at 14 yrs old being a good girl I swore then id be a NUN lol

then for my cows i was like wait thats not the same shape then the horses i again was gonna be a nun

Now i laugh i know ducks have Cork screws but what about Turkeys ?

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: I had a Neucropsys Done on 2 of the pullets that had died just before the vet got here the first cough i called him took 2 days for him to show he was sure it was ILV ................... And that vet had me in a Panic but after talking to some older breeders who have been around longer then me and this 30+ yr old vet i think ill go with experience instead of someone who just made the grade he told me today he only raised pigeons ................. wow anyway i am glad he made it out and i am on this list i would not have known what to look for and i got Batril and good advice

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

You should never use Baytril in any bird that you want to breed, or lay eggs for you. Baytril (not always, but CAN) cause sterility.

Not to mention, it is actually illegal now to use in backyard poultry, at least per a veterinary conference one of our vets went to last year...I'm assuming a lot of vets don't know that yet...

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

Quote: I will respectfully disagree here. Most respiratory poultry diseases create carriers out of survivors. I suppose that if you want to close your flock and never sell another bird, and you practice excellent biosecurity, which, as you yourself point out, most people don't, then you could keep survivors of illness in your flock for breeding, etc...but for what purpose? If they are carriers, they can never be sold to anyone else, they can never be taken to a show, and you always run the risk of cross contaminating to chicks, etc...
Not worth the risk, IMO.

 

[Suzierd]

I will respectfully disagree here.  Most respiratory poultry diseases create carriers out of survivors.  I suppose that if you want to close your flock and never sell another bird, and you practice excellent biosecurity, which, as you yourself point out, most people don't, then you could keep survivors of illness in your flock for breeding, etc...but for what purpose?  If they are carriers, they can never be sold to anyone else, they can never be taken to a show, and you always run the risk of cross contaminating to chicks, etc...
Not worth the risk, IMO.

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[BGMatt]

I will respectfully disagree here. Most respiratory poultry diseases create carriers out of survivors. I suppose that if you want to close your flock and never sell another bird, and you practice excellent biosecurity, which, as you yourself point out, most people don't, then you could keep survivors of illness in your flock for breeding, etc...but for what purpose? If they are carriers, they can never be sold to anyone else, they can never be taken to a show, and you always run the risk of cross contaminating to chicks, etc...
Not worth the risk, IMO.

You're welcome to disagree, but I know of many, many, many cases where this is not true. I have been told both by breeders I trust and my mentors, and veterinarians over the years that what I said was accurate. As well as observed it myself. It's a pretty common misconception though.

Edit: And it does depend on what respiratory disease it is, LT and such are much more dangerous and hard to be completely rid of compared to minor stuff like upper respiratory infections.

 

[Cloverleaf Farm]

Quote: That's fine if you want to risk it. But I suppose we all know who not to buy birds from now. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Tammy N]

Quote: That's fine if you want to risk it. But I suppose we all know who not to buy birds from now. Thanks for the heads up.
Listening to all Opinions
but um what do you do with your issues I at Least posted mine . I love how you add everyone in your Personal Opinion Thats just funny as Chicken poop. So every one has to agree with you ? Really ? You must be God ? WTHeck People are ok to have Opinions but when you post every one or we All Is just asnine to me . Maybe ill kill all my chickens and buy from you . Or send the guy to your place that came here and see if you even have the Guts to post

 

[BGMatt]

That's fine if you want to risk it.  But I suppose we all know who not to buy birds from now.  Thanks for the heads up.

Do you not show your birds? Do you really think nobody exhibiting their birds there has ever ever had a respiratory issue in their flock? Do you depopulate your entire flock if you have respiratory issues? If not, do you sell birds?

For the record I haven't had a sick bird since starting up again from scratch, and before then it had been 15 years or so. Anyway like I said everyone doesn't have to agree, just saying everyone's experiences aren't equal. Not trying to pick a fight or be insulted.

 

[Tammy N]

Listen People I had the State VET HERE he had them sent to the LAB and The Lab did a Neucropsy the Lab said it was a Upper Resp I panicked thinking the worst But this is no different then the Common Cold or Flu . Our Weather is wet here in Florence ALWAYS never get above 65 F and Lately we have 70 and 80 Wet one day dusty the next 2

If the Vet thought it was a Bad thing to treat the birds and Let me keep my NPIP then why did he Give me my NPIP back and MEDS ?

Get a grip or maybe go do some reading ,.

I was scared to death because of Panicky people i have talked to a few Vets last couple of days after talking to TIM ,, MATT AND DAK who have bread Longer then any of you who point your fingers

So not only am i sticking with Experienced Breeders IM also listening to Vets 6 Vets advice The Vets have Talked to the Lab and know way more then me on whats going on and one i have known since i was 9 yrs old No in my late 40s told me i was an idiot to panic .

So if you do not wanna Buy from me AWESOME Cause BABY IM CLOSED .................................No feelings hurt here