I've been breeding them for only 4 years and I'm now getting the look I like. I live in a secluded area of Norther California (way North!) and it was hard to find birds like I want. Also the birds I found here are very skittish like Pheasants or some wild bird and that really bugged me. Now my birds are starting to look and act just like I want. I love to have my birds walk up to me, dance for me and let me pick them up. They're cooler than dogsThax... Yea I love his structure!