Paint Silkies ~ European Lines

[Narragansett]

sagersilkies :

what silkies do u mix to get paint blue roo with white hen

Pied, pinto or broken coloration is not the result of a cross between two colors. Genetics in higher animals usually does not work that way, although it does sometimes in plants. The mutation for pied color is it's own seperate trait. It appeared randomly, and had to be selected for to continue reproducing it. To get a pied animal, it must have two pied parents, or both parents must be carrying the recessive gene for pied.​

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Pied, pinto or broken coloration is not the result of a cross between two colors. Genetics in higher animals usually does not work that way, although it does sometimes in plants. The mutation for pied color is it's own seperate trait. It appeared randomly, and had to be selected for to continue reproducing it. To get a pied animal, it must have two pied parents, or both parents must be carrying the recessive gene for pied.

That assumes that chickens have a pied gene; they don't. There are genes that choreograph (thanks tadkerson for that analogy) where pigment is placed in a feather, and there are other genes that prevent pigment from being placed in a feather or part of a feather (white, silver, mottling, barring).

 

[Narragansett]

Pied or pinto is not recognized, nor is it usually selected for in any standard breed or variety of chicken, but it certainly occurs. These paint silkies are an example of it, unless they are all white silkies with dyed patches. Exchequer Leghorns, and a few strains of commercial layers display other examples of the pied gene in chickens. Just about every other species of domestic bird has the pied gene. In many species of cage birds and in many breeds of pigeons it is actually recognized. The examples you give are of genes for patterning, not for the random pied gene.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Yes, I realize that the genes I listed are for patterns. I'd suggest you ask in the genetic forum of Classroom-At-The-Coop about a pied gene in poultry; there is none documented. That is where the real genetic gurus tend to hang out. We have a few who hang out here, but more post there far more frequently.

My understanding of paints and exchequers is that the patches are due to the leaky nature of dominant white.

 

[M@M@2four]

I just posted a young paint pullet(I believe) on auction--European lines.

 

[Countrypunk92]

Your silkies are gorgous!

 

[M@M@2four]

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Thank you!

 

[Narragansett]

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Thank you for your suggestion, but I'm in more of a position to be giving advice, rather than needing it.
There are many documented cases of the pied gene in poultry; pheasants, quail, ducks, both mallard derived and Muscovy, turkeys, pigeons, Guinea Fowl, Peafowl, pheasants (several species), possibly geese, and in chickens. If paint and Exchequer were due to a supposed leaky nature of dominant white, we would see many other examples of those varieties in other breeds which also occur in dominant white.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Thank you for your suggestion, but I'm in more of a position to be giving advice, rather than needing it.
There are many documented cases of the pied gene in poultry; pheasants, quail, ducks, both mallard derived and Muscovy, turkeys, pigeons, Guinea Fowl, Peafowl, pheasants (several species), possibly geese, and in chickens. If paint and Exchequer were due to a supposed leaky nature of dominant white, we would see many other examples of those varieties in other breeds which also occur in dominant white.

Just because a silkie looks to be furry rather than feathered, doesn't mean it is. I have no idea of your background or knowledge, I DO know that of those to whom I referred you.

 

[RioLindoAz]

Love learning about different peoples opinions about genetics in chickens.
There is so much we dont know about, and so much that we THINK we know about.