Papers?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by chicken_noob, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. chicken_noob

    chicken_noob Chillin' With My Peeps

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    How do you know that there bird is a purebreed!?
    ..well farmer jimbob down the lane by the big ole oak tree said it was...then he shook my hand.

    When buying or selling a chicken/chick... is there any form of papers to prove its bloodline like there is with other animals?
     
  2. sjarvis00

    sjarvis00 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:No, No such registry exists for poultry, it would be far too cumbersome for serious breeders who produce hundreds each year of each variety just to retain a few for show and fewer for breeding the next generaion.
    the best method to know what you have is to deal with reputable breeders, and or be able to see the breed stock, and discuss the line and breeding habits of the birds, If you are purchasing them from someone other than Lets say "Bob" and they were quoted as being "Bob's" birds they are'nt bob's birds they are birds.
     
  3. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

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    The only way to tell for sure if they're purebred is if they follow the Standard of Perfection for the breed. Now, they don't have to meet every little detail, that's for showbirds, but they need to meet the color, leg color, comb type, earlobe color, and general body shape requirements.
     
  4. chrisf

    chrisf Chillin' With My Peeps

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  5. Sonoran Silkies

    Sonoran Silkies Flock Mistress

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    Quote:Not quite an accurate statement. If it meets the standard, it IS the breed or variety. Now, getting all the genes to align properly takes some doing, so in most cases it will breed predictably. Note that I did not say "breed true" as that is an inaccuracy with a number of varieties.
     
  6. Chris09

    Chris09 Circle (M) Ranch

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    Quote:No, No such registry exists for poultry, it would be far too cumbersome for serious breeders who produce hundreds each year of each variety just to retain a few for show and fewer for breeding the next generaion.
    the best method to know what you have is to deal with reputable breeders, and or be able to see the breed stock, and discuss the line and breeding habits of the birds, If you are purchasing them from someone other than Lets say "Bob" and they were quoted as being "Bob's" birds they are'nt bob's birds they are birds.

    Depends on your definition but Pigeons are considers Poultry and Pigeons have Pedigrees.
    The good Pedigrees has not only the birds wing band but also a picture of the bird and a eye picture of the bird. (the pigeons eye is like a humans finger print)

    Also Holderread Waterfowl sells Pedigreed English Khaki Ducks.

    Chris
     
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  7. jamband

    jamband Chillin' With My Peeps

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    there may not be papers but I know many breeders keep records of lineage for several generations. In fact this is mandatory for some groups/ coalitions of recognized breeders.
     
  8. sjarvis00

    sjarvis00 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:No, No such registry exists for poultry, it would be far too cumbersome for serious breeders who produce hundreds each year of each variety just to retain a few for show and fewer for breeding the next generaion.
    the best method to know what you have is to deal with reputable breeders, and or be able to see the breed stock, and discuss the line and breeding habits of the birds, If you are purchasing them from someone other than Lets say "Bob" and they were quoted as being "Bob's" birds they are'nt bob's birds they are birds.

    Depends on your definition but Pigeons are considers Poultry and Pigeons have Pedigrees.
    The good Pedigrees has not only the birds wing band but also a picture of the bird and a eye picture of the bird. (the pigeons eye is like a humans finger print)

    Also Holderread Waterfowl sells Pedigreed English Khaki Ducks.

    Chris

    that is good to know, I'm not into pidgeons or waterfowl but that is good to know. How would they record thier culls or do they only register a portion of the birds?
     
  9. GotGame

    GotGame Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:The Blue Golden Duckwing in the OEGB does have a standard, it is a recognized color pattern, but they do not breed true. Statistically, you havea 12.5% chance of getting a BGDW when breeding 2 of them together.
     
  10. gumbii

    gumbii Chillin' With My Peeps

    Oct 7, 2010
    bell gardens, ca
    Quote:Depends on your definition but Pigeons are considers Poultry and Pigeons have Pedigrees.
    The good Pedigrees has not only the birds wing band but also a picture of the bird and a eye picture of the bird. (the pigeons eye is like a humans finger print)

    Also Holderread Waterfowl sells Pedigreed English Khaki Ducks.

    Chris

    that is good to know, I'm not into pidgeons or waterfowl but that is good to know. How would they record thier culls or do they only register a portion of the birds?

    we put bands on them first, then see if they are worth registering or culling...
     

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