Parlor Tumbler/Roller Thread!

[lightchick]

Quote: Well. I've been told that the top one is some kind of grizzle(?) and the bottom one is a dun.

 

[laughingdog]

ive heard top called blond grizzle, yellow grizzle, and forget third. most call whatever want as long as they're paying feed bill. lol
grizzle i think, means white intermixed in and out, like tiger stripes.

 

[loftkeeper]

bottom bird is brown top bird maybe a yellow mottle or a bird that is bred almond but not colored right where you get them i know several of the wests breeders maybe could help what is the band a npa or west club band

 

[laughingdog]

That's it.. mottle was other trying to think of.

 

[loftkeeper]

mottles are not a color but more of a marking yellow with white black with white so on and so forth go to the national west club web site and see the different markings west are a very color breed with many markings and colors

 

[paramount]

Your top bid (cock) is a Yellow Grizzle. The black ticking indicates that he is Ash Red and carries blue.

Generally, the term "mottle" is reserved for Recessive Red. The easiest way to tell the difference between a grizzle and a mottle is that in a grizzle, you will see white feathers "tipped" in color. In Mottles, the feathers are always a solid color and the marking is created by interspersed white feathers amongst colored feathers. Genetically, mottles are created by the same genetic factor that creates "whitesides" or whiteshields", as seen in Vienna WhiteSide Tumblers, Dresden Trumpeters, etc.

The bottom bird is probably a Dun Self, which is dilute black. (True "black" is Spread Blue. You can tell the difference by the tail, as blacks/duns have no tail bar).

If you see a tail bar on the hen, that means she lacks the spread factor. Sometimes dilute blue checks with a lot of bronzing will look like "duns", but they will have a defined bar in the tail. These dilute blue check bronzes are typically dubbed "Sulfers"

 

[lightchick]

Your top bid (cock) is a Yellow Grizzle. The black ticking indicates that he is Ash Red and carries blue.

Generally, the term "mottle" is reserved for Recessive Red. The easiest way to tell the difference between a grizzle and a mottle is that in a grizzle, you will see white feathers "tipped" in color. In Mottles, the feathers are always a solid color and the marking is created by interspersed white feathers amongst colored feathers. Genetically, mottles are created by the same genetic factor that creates "whitesides" or whiteshields", as seen in Vienna WhiteSide Tumblers, Dresden Trumpeters, etc.

The bottom bird is probably a Dun Self, which is dilute black. (True "black" is Spread Blue. You can tell the difference by the tail, as blacks/duns have no tail bar).

If you see a tail bar on the hen, that means she lacks the spread factor. Sometimes dilute blue checks with a lot of bronzing will look like "duns", but they will have a defined bar in the tail. These dilute blue check bronzes are typically dubbed "Sulfers"

That would make sense if she's a dilute black because her father is the black check and her mother was a pure black. Her brother was black like her mother. I don't think she has a tail bar.

 

[kaestark]

i currently dont have any of mine. i have a pair and i have 6 new babies that i just got! the female that was the first one i got goes about 124 feet! to be an official show pigeon they need to roll 75 feet so shes good this pigeons are amazing little critters to have and you should get more if you like them! when young they kinda fly but when they get older they forget how to fly so you wint need to worry about them flying away. you do need to them in a high sheltered cage with tons of bedding. they llike to roll on their own and "practice"

 

[kaestark]

i meant i dont have any lictures bul for sre ill get some!

 

[kaestark]

also i forgot to memtion, these pigeons love love love attention! if you sit with them talk to them they will eventually get to like you and will even wait for at the door of a cage for you and will even make noise when you see them!