Partridge Silkies - Nothing else

[ChickNmamma]

Good night everyone. I'm new on byc and also new in the Silkie world and on top of that....French speaking.

So there is a couple of abreviations I don't understand but working on that.

I live in Québec Canada and got my first pure white silkue last year. I bought hatching eggs this year and got 1 white pullet 1 black roo 2 black pullets (I think) and 2 partridge 1 roo 1 pullet. When they were chicks they had the stripes on the back. But now as they are growing looks different than partridge...well for one. I learned that she was silver...but do I say silver partridge or it is not partridge? I also have one..a boy I think...3 months and a half with red ...can you help me on this...do we call him red partridge...silver red partridge or just ...partridge?

Thanks for the great topic...

Isabelle

Hello and Welcome to BYC

and Welcome to the wonderful world of Sillies.. er - Silkies!

Ask us any abbreviations you don't understand - be they English/French translation or just Chicken translations. Chicken language is almost like learning a different language as well.

Partridge is one of those mixed up and misused colors. Everything with a striped chick is lumped into Partridge. The nice thing is you have a name to show them under - or tell people about them. The bad thing is getting the colors to what the SOP calls for is next to impossible with all that is thrown in and mixed in there. I still love the color! Another thing about Partridge - it can change when they grow up. There are genes which change the feathers that don't show up until the first (juvenile) molt, and they can change again when they get their final feathers. You can have a Partridge chick grow up to look like a Blue - or a Black - and you won't be able to tell it was ever Partridge, unless you cross it with a bird that carries Partridge and you can loose those other genes. Its why sometimes Partridge birds show up from a Blue/Black/Splash pen (called B/B/S for short).

The Boy with the red on the wings.. that could be something called Autosomnal Red - and it is not desired in any color except Partridge (Gold). I believe you could call him Silver Partridge with Red leakage, if you wanted to term it correctly. Unless he now looks like his sister - who looks like a Blue? A picture of him would help us give you what to call him, because we can't go on genetics - only what he looks like on the outside as an adult.

Isabelle is pretty, and she looks like a Blue to me. If she doesn't have the silver neck and front then I would call her a Blue. Even though she was a Partridge striped chick. She carries genes that repress the Partridge and make it into Blue.

Now that's just the tip of the iceberg about Partridges.. but I STILL love the chipmunk chicks!

I hatched out a bunch of Partridge x Bluff chicks this year (trying to get to Partridge). Of the 6, half were yellow chipmunks, the other had a gold chipmunk look. I kept the gold chipmunk ones and gave the yellow chipmunks to my mother. The yellow chipmunks look like Partridge (so she tells me) and the gold chipmunks look like ... Smutty Buff (Buff with dark tails and red on the boy's wings). However - from the Blue hen - I got.. Black, Blue and WHITE! I was NOT expecting that white! Genetics are always interesting.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Quote: Partridge males are SUPPOSED to have black or mostly black breasts. With silkies, all too many have little to no black on their breasts. Females show penciling; males do not. "Autosomal" means that it is not sex-linked. All genes that are not sex-linked are autosomal.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

This guy is gorgeous and my pictures don't do him justice. His feathering is just incredible and he is the Ameraucana partridge silkie cross again. I would love to have a silkie with this coloring though I don't know what it would be called.
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It's close to birchen, but looks golden rather than pure silver.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Half Ameraucana half partridge silkie rooster (crest tuft, furry legs)

Full sister to the rooster above (crest tuft, furry legs)


Half Serama half silkie - I call her Road Runner (she has silkie feathering crest tuft)

Half Serama half silkie (crest tuft)


Half Serama half silkie (furry legs and crest tuft)

This guy is gorgeous and my pictures don't do him justice. His feathering is just incredible and he is the Ameraucana partridge silkie cross again. I would love to have a silkie with this coloring though I don't know what it would be called.

Dang, those are soooo cute! Love the first picture with the three generations and the Lavender little. I guess if you were wanting to create your own Self Blue Silkies you have a good candidate there. Cross her/him to a black Silkie, cross the splits back to her/him until you get the silkied feathers again with the lavender gene. Hopefully the pea comb and the walnut comb make the walnut comb again and you get the 5 toes, blue ears, etc back..

Road Runner looks like a quail! Too cute!

I think the last guy would be called golden duckwing - not an accepted color - but would be really pretty!

Do the Silkie cross hens lay a blue egg?
It appears to be a crow wing pattern rather than duckwing.

 

[adni02]

Pennie~~  THRILLED that you started this thread /img/smilies/celebrate.gifNow thats a good looking roo


Just love your beautiful Partridges; it's MY favorite color in Silkies too.  You're right though---very few breeders show them (unfortunately).  I always try to take 5 or 6 to the shows and am always surprised at the number of people who have never even seen a Partridge Silkie /img/smilies/ep.gif


I'll start with a couple of pics now, then add more later today...

Spartacus--my main breeding cockerel

 

[SPARKLESILKIE]

That's a beautiful rooster!

 

[Quechicks]

awesome that means my 2 young'uns are definately girls like I thought.

Hello and Welcome to BYC and Welcome to the wonderful world of Sillies.. er - Silkies!

Ask us any abbreviations you don't understand - be they English/French translation or just Chicken translations.  Chicken language is almost like learning a different language as well.

Partridge is one of those mixed up and misused colors.  Everything with a striped chick is lumped into Partridge.  The nice thing is you have a name to show them under - or tell people about them.  The bad thing is getting the colors to what the SOP calls for is next to impossible with all that is thrown in and mixed in there.  I still love the color!  Another thing about Partridge - it can change when they grow up.  There are genes which change the feathers that don't show up until the first (juvenile) molt, and they can change again when they get their final feathers.  You can have a Partridge chick grow up to look like a Blue - or a Black - and you won't be able to tell it was ever Partridge, unless you cross it with a bird that carries Partridge and you can loose those other genes.  Its why sometimes Partridge birds show up from a Blue/Black/Splash pen (called B/B/S for short).

The Boy with the red on the wings.. that could be something called Autosomnal Red - and it is not desired in any color except Partridge (Gold).   I believe you could call him Silver Partridge with Red leakage, if you wanted to term it correctly.  Unless he now looks like his sister - who looks like a Blue?  A picture of him would help us give you what to call him, because we can't go on genetics - only what he looks like on the outside as an adult.

Isabelle is pretty, and she looks like a Blue to me.  If she doesn't have the silver neck and front then I would call her a Blue.  Even though she was a Partridge striped chick.  She carries genes that repress the Partridge and make it into Blue.

Now that's just the tip of the iceberg about Partridges.. but I STILL love the chipmunk chicks!

I hatched out a bunch of Partridge x Bluff chicks this year (trying to get to Partridge).  Of the 6, half were yellow chipmunks, the other had a gold chipmunk look.  I kept the gold chipmunk ones and gave the yellow chipmunks to my mother.  The yellow chipmunks look like Partridge (so she tells me) and the gold chipmunks look like ... Smutty Buff (Buff with dark tails and red on the boy's wings).  However - from the Blue hen - I got.. Black, Blue and WHITE!  I was NOT expecting that white!  Genetics a

thank you ChickNmamma....thank you for the infos....You see I taught it was a boy...but Isabelle is....my name hahaha...I know it is not obvious the way it was put. I'm on my cell and the paging is hard....

Is a picture of his sister. I sold her cause she had toes stick together (can't remember the exact term).

Isabelle

 

[FowlJunkie]

Goodness, so sorry to hear about your Winni (we are calling ours Winifred, the formality seems to suit her

). We are new to this and still stress about everything they do. It would crush me to lose one now. Any idea what happened to yours???

No I don't have a clue She just wasn't thriving I think. Not too sure. I was hand feeding her and giving her water too. She had moments where I thought she just might make it, but she didn't in the end

 

[ChickNmamma]

Quote:

Half Ameraucana half partridge silkie rooster (crest tuft, furry legs)

Full sister to the rooster above (crest tuft, furry legs)


Half Serama half silkie - I call her Road Runner (she has silkie feathering crest tuft)

Half Serama half silkie (crest tuft)


Half Serama half silkie (furry legs and crest tuft)

This guy is gorgeous and my pictures don't do him justice. His feathering is just incredible and he is the Ameraucana partridge silkie cross again. I would love to have a silkie with this coloring though I don't know what it would be called.

Dang, those are soooo cute! Love the first picture with the three generations and the Lavender little. I guess if you were wanting to create your own Self Blue Silkies you have a good candidate there. Cross her/him to a black Silkie, cross the splits back to her/him until you get the silkied feathers again with the lavender gene. Hopefully the pea comb and the walnut comb make the walnut comb again and you get the 5 toes, blue ears, etc back..

Road Runner looks like a quail! Too cute!

I think the last guy would be called golden duckwing - not an accepted color - but would be really pretty!

Do the Silkie cross hens lay a blue egg?
It appears to be a crow wing pattern rather than duckwing.
Ah, I see - no lighter feathers in the wing tips! At least I got the "golden" part right.. so Golden Birchen? Would be E^R based?

 

[ChickNmamma]

Quote: Partridge males are SUPPOSED to have black or mostly black breasts. With silkies, all too many have little to no black on their breasts. Females show penciling; males do not. "Autosomal" means that it is not sex-linked. All genes that are not sex-linked are autosomal.
Thank you for the explanation of Autosomal. Next time I see it used and somebody says its sex linked I will know that is incorrect. So there is a red that IS sex linked? Would this be the red the boys get on their wings that the girls never get? Part of the Male Pattern Coloring?

I am curious though - both of my Partridge roosters show something on their feathers - bands of gold on the black on one, and bands of brown on the black on the other. If they do not show penciling, what is this called? Its on their backs and wings, so perhaps you mean that the males do not show penciling on their breasts - not that they do not show it anywhere?

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Sorry about Winni. Its always hard to loose one.