Pay Per Bird (Turkey)

Repeat customers, are the only issue that I see here. I wouldn't worry about the price as much as why you haven't had repeat customers. A couple things to look for when doing small batches of birds to gearing up to larger quantities is losing the focus of why you got these customers in the first place. People usually make really great small business owners but make horrible big ones. Big business in this case isn't selling millions of dollars vs. hundreds, the fact that being too busy usually is enough to make a problem. What I'm getting at, is basically if you go from a hobby farm to an actual business, make sure you don't lose the sight of customer service. I can remember when I first started that I would do anything to get a customer to buy from me, in a good way. For example, I knew their family, knew what they did for a living, gave them free product to keep them happy... especially if it was something new. I always treated repeat customers like gold, as they make your business fail or succeed.

The point is, from doing 100 chickens to almost 10,000 chickens in a year, my customer service is the same. It's not as easy to make that connection like it was when I had 20-30 customers but just remembering a persons name or the fact that they even exist means a lot to customers. Especially in todays big ag mentality when people are just considered another number. Farmers that deal with hundreds of thousands of birds in a year usually deal with just a couple of buyers if not just one. In todays market farming you have to be better than the next guy, and when the next guy does exactly what you do, production practice wise... your customer service has to be perfect. I'm not saying that customer service is the reason why the sales have been down, but I wouldn't put it on the economy. Our sales are up from last year, market sales on chicken is down but overall sales have been up. I think our decrease in chicken sales is from our CSA programs that we do. We have over 100 families in our CSA and everyone of them get chicken.

However, regardless of why sales are down... this is why having a diverse farm is extremely important. You may come to find that rabbits make more money than chicken and that's fine.

Another thing to keep in mind is that most repeat customers assume that if they ordered a turkey from you last season for T-Day, that they automatically get a spot the following year. We send out follow up e-mails about 3 times to previous turkey customers prior to T-Day. The first one going out in July and the last in October, after that, they are out of luck. The second year we did turkeys we had about 50 or so customers miss out because we had sold out.

The bottom line, make sure to keep your customer service strong, don't let people talk you down in price, and stand by your product 100%. Honestly, I wouldn't even break down the price for a customer, whatever price you ask, stand by it and sell the fact that you have the best product available. For instance we have people that snicker at chicken breast being $12.00 / pound. For an average pair of breast being around a pound the cost for a pack /pair of breast is $12.00. However when whole chickens are $3.00 / pound and roughly a chicken weighs four pounds.... you have a $12.00 chicken. It's safe to say that we sell more boneless skinless breast than we do whole chicken. When people complain, I tell them, well you can buy a whole chicken for the same price. I get comments back like " I don't like the dark meat" or " I don't know how to cut up a chicken" or "I can't touch chicken skin, it freaks me out". I simply say, well we do offer chicken cutting class and if they don't like our price I tell them that there is another chicken vendor that offers frozen product over there for about half the price. A lot of times they walk only to find out that they don't care for the other vendors customer service or the fact that it's frozen.

Good luck with it, these are the trial and errors of becoming a great farmer. It's a tough road but definitely worth it in the long run.
 
A couple of thoughts. Americans aren't accustomed to heritage turkeys, so some sort of information packet and cooking instructions should be included.

It's very rare for Americans to purchase a turkey except for Thanksgiving and possibly Christmas.

I'm not the only one who will pay a serious packet of money in order to get the perfect food for my holiday meal. My family always has a standing rib roast for Christmas. The last few years, that roast has cost over $100. I whine and moan about the cost, but I pay it, because it is a holiday and the meal has to be perfect. I always go back to the same place that has sold me a good roast in the past. I absolutely will not have my guests be disappointed in their holiday meal. At the holidays, good food takes precedence over cost.

So if your turkeys are really worth the money, you will probably sell a lot of them for Thanksgiving. People are putting off purchases until the last minute because of the economy, but they are still spending big for the holidays.

I wish you the best of luck.
 
Thanks all. My repeat customers are still there and have purchased for this year. After last year when I got 50+ calls the week before thanksgiving I figured well I better up that a bit and account for new customers on top of the calls.

That being said I am only doing 250 turkeys this year.
750 chickens
225 rabbits.

Chickens and rabbits seem to be down this year as well. Price is darn near the same as last year. It is not a service issue as I treat all with respect and when at the market I always have some type of hot sample for the customers to try.

My operation is not big. Still quite small and I keep a full time job and another side job doing concrete counters. Not trying to get rich but make enough to leave my corporate job and be more fulfilled.

As I said earlier. I am not all that worried as I have some pretty full freezers and have a family to feed. My buffalo and 2 pigs that are on order will fit as well as few other things.

As for the partners. The farm only sells the product we raise on the farm and that people can see. They purchase no meat or eggs from anyone else. Only produce to fill what we are out of or didn't grow.
 
I would pay $70 plus for a turkey for Thanksgiving or Christmas but would really have to believe that I was getting something special and worth the price. Please note that worth to ME has nothing to do with profit for YOU.

Our local grocery store has a promotion to give away free turkeys at Thanksgiving. Very easy to "earn" the bird even for our two person household. We did it for a couple years and decided we didn't want it even if they paid us to take it.
 
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Smoking rabbits? Aren't they hard to keep lit?
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Since I had to take all the animals to the processor so I can sell at the Markets here the processor is smoking them for me.

I had the processor do the following:

Smoke 7 rabbits
Smoke breast meat from 6 turkeys

Ground breast meat and thigh meat from 6 turkeys

As the processor was boning out the remain thighs for ground meat they called and someone walked in and saw all the legs. Asked to purchase them. So got $3 lb for all the legs that were remaing. She will pay me when I see her.

16 chickens had converted to smoked chicken and apple country sausage.

I should get all of this next weekend. I will keep you posted on the rabbits. I can't wait to try them.
 
Whos your processor?

You know, I think its hard for people to figure how can you charge 72 bucks for a turk, and at the grocery store it's .99cents a pound. A turkey is a turkey is a turkey to them. They are thinking apples to apples, not apples to oranges. You need to sell them on the oranges.

I can understand your frustration.
 
i think alot of people cook fresh turkey wrong as well i usually do the turkey for thanksgiving last year my sister did it.i told her she did not have to cook it nearly as long an lower heat.she smoke that poor bird was so dry tasted like crap.think i will do it this year we have a few blue slates i can take care of.
 

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