Peacock Lost by USPS

[casportpony]

Quote: The peas at the feed store have them so bad that the patch on their faces that's usually white, isn't.

-Kathy

 

[KsKingBee]

I don't think Valley Vet sells it but here is a comparison chart.

http://www.valleyvet.com/library/dog_flea_tick_control_comparison.html?gas=vectra 3d dogs

 

[casportpony]

I don't think Valley Vet sells it but here is a comparison chart.

http://www.valleyvet.com/library/dog_flea_tick_control_comparison.html?gas=vectra 3d dogs

Interesting... I wonder how many of those could be used?

-Kathy

 

[MinxFox]

Hi everyone a little over a month ago I caught up my birds and put some ivermectin on them. I have only treated for the mites or lice (I think they were mites) only once, but now a little over a month later my birds are still clean. I few weeks ago I decided to write an article about this treatment and how I went about treating my birds: http://www.bamboopeacock.com/Mites_On_Peafowl.html

I would see the mites crawling around on their face. Yes they do get on the edge of the bird's eye to drink from the eye and then they scurry back into the feathers. They like hiding in or around the ear. If you see a mite on a peafowl's face and lick your finger really good then put it on the mite, you can get it off of the bird and pop it. I know that because I did that with Peep. I 'preened' them off of him when I first noticed them but of course I treated him. He was the easiest to treat because he just stands there like a good boy. The other birds put up a fight.

My article explains how your birds can get mites in the first place, and I would advise you to keep your Charcoal peacock away from your other birds until he no longer has mites or lice because you don't want them to spread.

I hope this helps anyone wondering about mites. This year a local breeder told me he is having lots of issues with mites. They like warm weather.

 

[Yoda]

Too funny! This is how the Corid powder misinformation spread. Someone said the dose was 1/2 teaspoon and not too long after that's what everyone was saying. I ticked off many people when I did the math, lol.

Drop sizes vary... I can make drops as small as .02ml and as big as .2ml.

-Kathy

Kathy breeders for years have been using 1/2 teaspoon of corid powder before you came along. And we still do LOL You did not tick off anyone when you did the math. I still use 1/2 teaspoon and will continue to do so. I still use Ivermectin pour on for cattle the same as I have always done and again will not change it. My birds are healthy, no bugs and breeding. You can measure and weigh all your birds everyday but dear you should already know by now what amount is good for your bird and how fast it should work. Grant not all birds are the same just like us and some will need a stronger dose. Can't wait til you have as many birds as we do cause you will not be using a scale LOL

Why use a dog frontline on a bird? A peacock doesn't have the same body oils as a dog so the frontline will not work on it as directed and may make the bird very ill. The swelling could be a reaction to the spray the seller used on the bird. Now that the bird has elbow room to move it could've started to preen its feathers and had a reaction to the spray. You cannot just keep placing this poor bird in different kinds of poison and expect it not to react. To kill a parasite you need to know what kind of parasite you are dealing with. Had someone googled poultry lice they would have learned that lice are host specific, in other words you cannot get poultry lice cause they would die once on you. Poultry (chicken) lice are chewing lice NOT blood sucking lice. Blood sucking lice are on mammals only. So had someone told Hannah in the beginning to use Ivermectin she would no longer have a lice problem today. Here is a University of New Hamshire study:http://extension.unh.edu/resources/files/Resource000790_Rep811.pdf

Placing 1/2 cc/ml of Ivermectin between the shoulders by gently lifting the feathers and squirting it directly onto the skin, using a needless syringe. It is OK if it gets onto the feathers cause you really want at least 1/4 cc/ml to absorb into the skin. If you need more then you can also apply the same amount to the tail area like Zaz stated.

 

[casportpony]

Are you one that uses two teaspoons of the liquid Corid? I can assure you, it did make people angry. Maybe not here in peafowl, but it did elsewhere. I found the post that started the 1/2 teaspoon misinformation and their math was wrong, period.

Here's the math, let me know if I made an error.


•There are 200mg of amprolium in every 1 gram of powder.
•1 ounce = 3.5 tablespoons = 28.35 grams
•200mg x 28.35 = 5670mg in 3.5 tablespoons of powder.
•There are 10.5 teaspoons in 3.5 tablespoons
•There are 21 1/2 teaspoons in 10.5 teaspoons
•5670mg divided by 21 1/2 teaspoons = ~270mg per 1/2 teaspoon
•There are two 1/4 teaspoons per 1/2 teaspoon
•270 mg divided by 2 = 135mg per 1/4 teaspoon





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Amount of Amprolium (Corid or Amprol) powder per 1/4 teaspoon


•One 1/4 teaspoon = 135 mg
•1/2 teaspoon = 270 mg
•3/4 teaspoon =405 mg
•1 teaspoon = 540 mg
•1 & 1/4 teaspoons = 675 mg
•1 & 1/2 teaspoons = 810 mg
•1 & 3/4 teaspoons = 945 mg
•2 teaspoons= 1080 mg



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Amount of Amprolium (Corid or Amprol) liquid per 1/4 teaspoon


•One 1/4 teaspoon = 120 mg
•1/2 teaspoon = 240 mg
•3/4 teaspoons = 360 mg
•1 teaspoon = 480 mg
•1 & 1/4 teaspoons = 600 mg
•1 & 1/2 teaspoons = 720 mg
•1 & 3/4 teaspoons = 840
•2 teaspoons = 960 mg



There are 4.92892ml/teaspoon, but the numbers above were calculated using 5ml/teaspoon



Here is what's in 1-10ml of the liquid
•1ml = 96mg
•2ml = 192mg
•3ml = 288mg
•4ml = 384mg
•5ml = 480mg
•6ml = 576mg
•7ml = 672mg
•8ml = 768mg
•9ml = 864mg
•10ml = 960mg



Bottom line, 1 teaspoon (540mg) of powder is equal to 5.625ml of liquid and 1/2 teaspoon powder (270mg) is equal to 2.8125ml liquid.



1/2 teaspoon of 20% powder = 2.8125ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 270mg of amprolium.

3/4 teaspoon of 20% powder = 4.21875ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 405mg of amprolium.

1 teaspoon of 20% powder = 5.625ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 540mg of amprolium.

1.5 teaspoons of 20% powder =8.4375ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 810mg of amprolium.

1.75 teaspoons of 20% powder = 9.84375ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 945mg of amprolium.

2 teaspoons of 20% powder = 11.25ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 1080mg of amprolium.





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And if that doesn't convince people, here is another way I did it:



From:

http://www.asp-inc.com/products/documents/prodinfo/a/amp128.pdf:



Dosage Level Mixing Directions

0.024% Dissolve 8 ounces of AMPROL 128 20% Soluble Powder in about five gallons of water in a 50-gallon medication barrel. Stir, then add water to the 50 gallon mark. Stir thoroughly.

0.012% Follow same directions as above but use 4 ounces of AMPROL 128 20% Soluble Powder.

0.006% Follow same directions as above but use 2 ounces of AMPROL 128 20% Soluble Powder.



Facts
•One pack = 10 oz. (283.5 grams)
•One ounce = 28.35 grams
•One ounce of powder = ~3.5 tablespoons
•200mg amprolium per 1 gram



My twisted math for the .024% level

If 8 ounces (28.35g x 8 = 226.8 grams) are needed for 50 gallons, then 1/50 of that is needed for 1 gallon, right? So that would be 226.8 grams divided by 50 = 4.536 grams per gallon. (doing this as I type, so correct me if I'm wrong, please!)



So how much does a teaspoon of Corid or Amprol powder weigh? Anyone know? Well, time to break out my gram scale and do some weighing... also have a call into the mfg of Corid and I'm expecting a call back from them.



Just got a call back from them and it is 4.536 grams per gallon. He also said that it's a very safe product and the risk of overdosing is very slim.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

For those that are curious:
1/2 teaspoon of 20% powder = 2.8125ml of 9.6% liquid - Both have 270mg of amprolium.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

The Avian vet suggested frontline, so that's what we did and it worked for *lice*. Ivermectin will not treat lice.

-Kathy

 

[Yoda]

The Avian vet suggested frontline, so that's what we did and it worked for *lice*. Ivermectin will not treat lice.

-Kathy

Ivermectin treats lice and mites

 

[casportpony]

Quote:
I didn't when I used it.

-Kathy