Pennsylvania!! Unite!!

I went to the tractor supply store today to buy the highly recommended medical interventions

corid and vitamins and blue kote...............so I hope I have the essential equipment

I still gotta go to get the good type of ACV----

I also cant believe I was viewing "normal " vs problem chicken poo pictures!

I think they all look gross................

my update for the day..................
I just realized you live in SE PA. Where?
 
I went to the tractor supply store today to buy the highly recommended medical interventions

corid and vitamins and blue kote...............so I hope I have the essential equipment

I still gotta go to get the good type of ACV----

I also cant believe I was viewing "normal " vs problem chicken poo pictures!

I think they all look gross................

my update for the day..................
The best acv I have found is from
Lancaster ag in ronks. For 2 1/2 gallons it was only 20 dollars. It's organic and not pasteurized. Please don't buy the Heinz at a store or if you do make sure it is not pasteurized. It may say with the mother but pasteurized kills all of the good bacteria regardless. Plus find organic.
 
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I'd be willing to go that far, I love the Lancaster area, but tell me this, in all truth, cause I kind of need "stealth" chickens ... are they quiet? Or can you recommend a breed that are virtually silent? Little clucks here and there would be ok, but that whole egg song thing .. Yikes! As you might be able to tell these would be my very first chickens ever.

I am about 200 posts behind, so I may not be as informed about this comment as I should be. That disclaimer being said, Cochins are the quietest birds I know of.
 
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to Mt Lions hahahaha yeah the old "oh there aren't any here" is BS, on warm nights here we can hear 2 calling/talking to each other - scared the c*ap outta me when I first heard it!!!

Hopefully they can move Seth closer to you guys soon. Sorry to hear he hurt his back
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hope is isn't anything too serious!
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He has a couple bulging discs in more than one spot. As of right now they're not going to operate, but if they herniate they will. We'll see what happens...
On the Mtn Lion topic...

My mom had a lot of issues last year with a strange animal lurking around her place. She heard this animal killing her kittens and thundering through the woods above and below her house. She never heard a noise like the call it made, either. A neighbor of theirs saw and confirmed it was a Mtn Lion stalking the hill. Earlier this summer I was leaving my moms and walked out to the road to get into the car, I heard this loud crashing through the woods above their house and I knew I should be heading to the car but was frozen stiff. This loud crashing was getting closer and it was coming right at me. When it hit the road, it came out of the woods about 5' up from me and it was still come right at me, but suddenly decided to turn and run down the road a good 25' before heading back up over the bank and up the hill. It was less than 15' from me. I couldn't tell exactly what it was at first because it was dark and it was moving, but I know what it wasn't - it wasn't a dog nor part of the dog family. It was tan, long tail (not like a dogs - longer), longer body than a Golden Retriever but about the same height and the ears were for sure cat like. I couldn't see the rest of the head well, other than the ears. I/we are very sure it was a juvenile Mtn Lion. Not only are they here, they are breeding.

My hens are pretty quiet most of the time. They do make alot of noise with the egg song. Bawk bawk BAWK bawk. Sometimes they get everyone singing even my rooster.

I have seen a black panther/ mt. lion walking down my road this year in the middle of the day. Glad to hear they don't exist. Lol All I know is it was a huge black cat bigger than my rottweilers with a long black tail. Hubby seen the prints in the snow. I made him go look because I didn't/couldn't believe what I saw. The prints were huge, not dog size, bigger!

We had a HUGE black cat (several actually we later found out) roaming the fields behind our old place in Oklahoma. Hubby thought I was nuts when I said I saw it, the neighbors thought I'd finally lost my mind - it wasn't until I made hubby & the neighbors all come for a walk with me in the field we saw the prints ... HUGE and deep!! Their prints were right by the deer prints.

We later saw about 4 of them in the field one autumn night while we were all sitting out the back round the fire pit - there was NO denying it then! Game and wildlife in Oklahoma didn't want to hear a word of it, being rude on the phone, hanging up etc.

Well someone out in the sticks finally shot one - called the news stations and game and wildlife, even with the BODY G&W still said no there are no big cats in Oklahoma .... seriously why do they bother denying it??

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Lots of critters out there. I've heard of wolves...may be wrong but until a carcass is sitting on the hood of a truck the gov is clueless .....my two cents....

It's much better for people to be aware & informed & know what to do if they happen upon a wild animal than to have no clue they could even possibly encounter 1.
There have been several cases of "domestic" big cats being released or escaping and establishing a breeding population in various parts of the country. It usually takes not only the body but testing to "prove" it's not an escapee, even if there is a breeding population...Even with all that they'll usually deny it. There have been several species that have begun returning to prior habitats without human help, species moving further north due to climate change (Scovies in TX, which means they are now cover by the Migratory Bird Act even though they don't migrate, are a recent example) and instances of populations being overlooked because of how remote their location is. Just what I've learned from talking with friends that work for various wildlife branches, who are (of course) required to "officially" deny most of it...
All the proof anyone needs that our government hides things is Area 51, even with all the photos and other proof, it took 50+ years for them to admit it was a real place, and it took a lawsuit from workers for them to admit it. (My vote is still out as far as the whole reverse engineering of alien or Nazi tech, and alien body claims.)
You can get Acv with the mother in it at Shoprite. I think walmart had heinz Acv with the mother in it. Have found Braggs at Shoprite and Gaint. Haven't found it at weis.
I got the Heinz with mother at our Weis and Walmart, it worked perfectly.
 
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Okay here is another question for all you wonderful and knowledgeable chicken raisers!

Most of the medicines etc seem to be put in the water............. I would imagine you cant have too many things in the water at one time
ACV
Wazine
vitamins etc

I don't recall all the stuff..................

if you do things one at a time...........it could take awhile.

I only have 4 chickens so I have an inside the coop waterer and outside..............but honestly----they don't drink THAT much and stuff gets spilled too.

I am always changing the water because stuff gets in it etc.
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so how do you all manage this?
 
I mix most stuff in a clean jug or pitcher and only put as much as I know they'll drink in the waterers, especial when I give corid. Some things should not be mixed, I know corid shouldn't be, not sure about some of the other stuff. The two save-a-chick products say they can be mixed together, I don't know if mixing ACV with them is a good idea. I'm sure someone else will know though. Personally I only give ACV in one waterer and electrolites/vitamins or plain water in the other, unless they need the corid. When they're out during the day they choose the pond and puddles over fresh water every time.
The one waterer I have has a handle to hang it and I have it hung from a rafter, the other is placed on top of a cooler in the coop to prevent spilling and woodchips being kicked into it. I'm planning on getting the nipples and using a 5 gal bucket, but I haven't gotten that far yet.
I wonder has anyone used that system (or even a metal waterer) and maybe used a small pond heater to prevent freezing in the winter? I wouldn't use the ACV if using the heater and or metal waterer, obviously. I was planning on making the cinder block heaters, but just wondering if anyone has tried this.
 

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