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[SilkieSensation]

 


[COLOR=0000FF]Hey Sally! Good to see you! I also have been having trouble with the screen freezing, unable to quote, ect...I'm hoping BYC straightens it out. I would love to hear more about NPIP, are you really able to free range on the program? I understand I was given some bum information at the class, where I asked about it....or it could be that Free Range is such a broad term...do you have to keep your runs covered or what? I'm really interested.[/COLOR]

technically you cannot free range as anything you do that doesnt fall under their provisions will void your testing and inturn void your NPIP status.  I know most just dont listen to the guidelines, but after having several hours conversation with the health inspector here and some of the disease he ran into I am not sure I WONT follow their guidelines. Its so easy for them to pick stuff up, but again thats why we test every 90 days.  Yes we covered our runs with cheap bush netting and let me tell you its hanging low from all this ice, a temp fix to pass inspection.  

I am sure your clean Blarney if you have an enclosed area when the inspector comes, fresh water food, screened windows and such, rodent control and your birds look good you will NOT have an issue.  I am thinking Chris would be your health inspector and also your field test inspector for the CPT, if you go through this I suggest while chris is there you do the blood draw even if you didnt have nans course yet! He was here and now he has to run all the way back out just for that. I didnt know he was the same go to guy at the time!  

The paperwork is done on my end and I have the word files to edit, and yours will look exactly like mine so its a simple email to Nan, Chris will do the rest for you!  I have questioned that provisions book over and over and even Harrisburg is confused with alot of it! Its all in who reads it and what they get out of it!  But after Chad figuring out the labwork paperwork and Nan finishing up my application and forms it was a fast process.  The cpt course helped me with understanding the lab paperwork which we were a tad confused on so I wrote notes all over my example paperwork so I wouldnt forget them! 

Let me know when your ready, paperwork is basically done, you will first need your premise number if you dont have one, but your a farm so I will assume you do have one.  If not here is the link to do it online, they dont come out or anything they just sent me a number. http://www.agriculture.state.pa.us/...3/AgWebsite/contact/PremisesRegistration.aspx

You dont HAVE to do the hatchery and do the AI clean every 90 but I highly suggest it. And you started to show not?  

If anyone else is interested I can walk you through with Martha on here instead of Emails with my application/s and explain anything you need to understand about my answers on the form, because they were changed NUMEROUS TIMES for different reasons! 

Holy cow! Ohio's NPIP process is so much easier. We have a vet come once per year to test for pt & ai. We can free range. As long as birds are pt & ai certified we can get them from any source. We only need ai for waterfowl. The only time you need to have the vet come back out during the year is if you bring in any uncertified birds. Those birds have to be quarantined until tested.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: technically you cannot free range as anything you do that doesnt fall under their provisions will void your testing and inturn void your NPIP status. I know most just dont listen to the guidelines, but after having several hours conversation with the health inspector here and some of the disease he ran into I am not sure I WONT follow their guidelines. Its so easy for them to pick stuff up, but again thats why we test every 90 days. Yes we covered our runs with cheap bush netting and let me tell you its hanging low from all this ice, a temp fix to pass inspection.

I am sure your clean Blarney if you have an enclosed area when the inspector comes, fresh water food, screened windows and such, rodent control and your birds look good you will NOT have an issue. I am thinking Chris would be your health inspector and also your field test inspector for the CPT, if you go through this I suggest while chris is there you do the blood draw even if you didnt have nans course yet! He was here and now he has to run all the way back out just for that. I didnt know he was the same go to guy at the time!

The paperwork is done on my end and I have the word files to edit, and yours will look exactly like mine so its a simple email to Nan, Chris will do the rest for you! I have questioned that provisions book over and over and even Harrisburg is confused with alot of it! Its all in who reads it and what they get out of it! But after Chad figuring out the labwork paperwork and Nan finishing up my application and forms it was a fast process. The cpt course helped me with understanding the lab paperwork which we were a tad confused on so I wrote notes all over my example paperwork so I wouldnt forget them!

Let me know when your ready, paperwork is basically done, you will first need your premise number if you dont have one, but your a farm so I will assume you do have one. If not here is the link to do it online, they dont come out or anything they just sent me a number. http://www.agriculture.state.pa.us/...3/AgWebsite/contact/PremisesRegistration.aspx

You dont HAVE to do the hatchery and do the AI clean every 90 but I highly suggest it. And you started to show not?

If anyone else is interested I can walk you through with Martha on here instead of Emails with my application/s and explain anything you need to understand about my answers on the form, because they were changed NUMEROUS TIMES for different reasons!
Holy cow! Ohio's NPIP process is so much easier. We have a vet come once per year to test for pt & ai. We can free range. As long as birds are pt & ai certified we can get them from any source. We only need ai for waterfowl. The only time you need to have the vet come back out during the year is if you bring in any uncertified birds. Those birds have to be quarantined until tested.
you cant be PT and AI clean you are void the AI unless you test 90 days. read the federal provisions. You are Void of the AI clean. you are simply PT clean and your certificates are void, any AI clean is 90 days for ALL Subparts of the Plan. I understand why they do this as well, AI can spread like wildfire.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

A friend from NC had no idea this was true either, he is in the process of getting everything straightened out. The trouble is that the local health inspectors do not really know the provisions, you should ALWAYs check in with your state rep/Doctor on the NPIP process.

 

[fisherlady]

Karen are you on Facebook? on several of the chicken groups I am on there were some asking for hens. Not sure their location vs you but if your on FB send me a link and I can friend and add you to the lists, most times I dont even have to post on CL anymore. I think alot of PA BYC are on them too.

Sally, I am not on Facebook, but you can tell folks to contact me through BYC if they are in my neck of the woods or willing to travel a bit. I am about 70 miles or so NE of Pittsburgh, an hour and 10 mins East of Kittanning, 40 mins NE of the town of Indiana and can be to Dubois or Clearfield on I-80 in 35 mins or so, I am 20 mins from Punxsy Phil (the groundhog). For someone to actually see where I am on a map, I am right near the town of Glen Campbell.

I currently have 3 Silver Pencils Rock hens from SQ breeder(mid May hatch), 3 Black Giant hens (mid March hatch), and a couple of barnyard mix hens (June hatch) and 2 mix roos which will have to go to the freezer if no one wants them. Also have 4 Buckeye roos who were hatched mid September (from a good breeder also) they will go to freezer camp if no one needs breeding stock.

 

[wingstone]

Sally, question if you bring a non tested bird in and you are certified to do your own testing,do you only have to quarentine till the test comes back or do you have to have someone else come out also..

This is so much different than the guielines I try to follow,,,,maybe would of been cheaper in the long run,,,,,,,stainless steel is really pricey, an hot running water is harder to get some places than you would think.

 

[wingstone]

Quote: you know we came close to being neighbors, we almost bought a farm just outside of indiana.......if the ground would of been a little flatter we might have

 

[Brittany7]

I am gonna be a page hog again! But some of you asked for it!!!

 

[fisherlady]

you know we came close to being neighbors, we almost bought a farm just outside of indiana.......if the ground would of been a little flatter we might have

There isn't much 'flat' around here! LOL... I live on a ridge, elevation 1900+ feet, by the time I get to the main highway 2.5 miles away I drop something like 500ft. Multiple ravines right near my house have created perfect havens for deer and bear... when DH and I start property shopping for our next place it will not be on top of a ridge! LOL

• Edit to correct elevation differences... just rechecked the topo map, even more drop than I thought it was.

 

[wingstone]

Quote: we spent a week out there looking around, beautiful area just not to farm friendly, we would of needed all new equipment to handle the sloping ground.
not sure of the name but the town we stayed in was a college town, we looked at 2 places about 10 minutes out from there

 

[fisherlady]

They are adorable Brittany!!