Permission to shoot neighbor's dogs

[appps]

Since there are conflicting stories from the local authorities and those news reports shown in the links I think to be safe I'd get what you were told in writing just in case you do find yourself needing to take action

 

[halo]

Seems as though Dkluck and whitetail98 here entertain the idea of shooting dogs rather than doing what is right. You have to wonder about people who think that way. I caught the same dog twice going after one of my pigs a few years back. I caught the large Husky, read his tag and took him home. I warned the owner to keep the dog under control for it's sake and his. The second time I took him back, I was very loud about my warning. It never happened again. I think some people forget it is THE OWNER who should accountable for what their dog does, not randomly shooting dogs simply because you can.

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There is nothing "random" about having to shoot dogs if they are killing your livestock. Not only that, it is perfectly legal. What if that said large Husky had killed all your pigs? Or what if that large Husky had killed your dog? Or your child? You might be thinking differently then.​

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[D Kluck]

Originally Posted by Michael Apple


>>>> as though Dkluck and whitetail98 here entertain the idea of shooting dogs rather than doing what is right. You have to wonder about people who think that way. I caught the same dog twice going after one of my pigs a few years back. I caught the large Husky, read his tag and took him home. I warned the owner to keep the dog under control for it's sake and his. The second time I took him back, I was very loud about my warning. It never happened again. I think some people forget it is THE OWNER who should accountable for what their dog does, not randomly shooting dogs simply because you can. <<<<<


First of all Michael. -- Have you ever had a dog killed any of your animals? And for the record I never "randomly" shoot dogs. We own 4 dogs and 3 cats that are NEVER allowed to roam beyond our property.

I always go to the owners (if they are known) and warned them about their dog and many times the local law does this too. You are correct "THE OWNER who should be accountable for what their dog does".... but, The bottom line is there are some dog owners who DO NOT care. ... so what do we do Michael??? ..Should we kick their *** because they are pathetic losers??..
The irresponsible dog owner is a piece of crap. They do NOT deserve to own a dog.....

 

[smilingcat]

Original post says she lives in a country. 8+ acre property qualifies as one. If the neighbor was ugly to another neighbor about the dogs and not take responsibility, you can do one of two things. Catch the dogs and take'em to a pound. Or SSS rule. As cruel as it may sound, I wouldn't hesitate it if the dog is a menace. My responsibility is to my animals, and family FIRST!!

And because of some animal cruelty law gone haywire, SSS is the way to go. If the problem neighbor asks about what happened to his dogs tell him "haven't seen your dogs on my property in few days/weeks." And that will be the truth!!

just my 2 cents.

 

[JiMyra]

If the dogs are a threat to you or livestock don't confront the owner. Shoot, shovel, and shut up the three S's.

 

[D Kluck]

>>> Shoot, shovel, and shut up the three S's<<

I like that SSS... I'm fortunate to own a back-hoe

 

[Michael Apple]

Doing what's right? How many animals have you lost to dogs? Have your children ever been in danger from trespassing dogs? We have lost over 50 poultry and now the gloves are off. Since we laid poison, within our boundary, there has been no trouble from other dogs that didn't die. The gun will also be used if necessary.

We are entitled to protect ourselves to the full extent of the law. If owners don't keep their dogs in check what's the point in being nice about it and still suffering losses? Where I live, we can attack with any weapon we have any intruder, human or animal. That's the way we shall play it now.

Alright. Since you, and some others are trying to take what I said out of context, here's the reality. I'm familiar with the out of control wild dog population in Thailand. In the U.S. we have a humane society which takes it upon itself to spay/neuter stray dogs which are caught, place dogs for adoption, and euthanize dogs/cats as well depending on the circumstances.

The local area I live in does not have the degree of stray dog problems because laws are enforced and the majority of people believe irresponsibility equals cruelty in much of the legislation passed over the years. Other states across our nation don't take the responsibility in regard to these proactive legislative matters. When the owner skirts responsibility of dog ownership, the dog gets shot or euthanized, and the irresponsible owner gets another dog that will likely meet the same fate. The dog is not the problem, the OWNER is.

When it comes to other animals being a threat to mine, mine will be protected. I'm quite familiar with the use of firearms and have shot predator animals in the past. I would recommend being proactive instead of reactive. Proper fencing around your property can deter roaming dogs for one example. A friend of mine once complained about a few neighborhood dogs harassing his stock. He makes a pretty good profit on the side selling organic eggs at farmer's markets. I looked at his property one day and it was almost humorous to see he never took into consideration that no fencing/broken down fencing would lead to easy access for predators. Since then, he has 6' fence and areas of electric fence around the range and poultry yard areas. That is called being responsible.

The reality is that domesticated dogs bear the brunt of irresponsible owners by being starved, shot, hit by cars, euthanized by animal control, etc. Those who advocate shooting roaming dogs as the solution, fail to see the collective tendency to attack the symptom of irresponsibility rather than the origin of it. If that upsets anyone then they probably have some responsibility issues they need to address themselves. The emotionally irrational responses to my previous posts on this thread are not my problem.

 

[Michael Apple]

Originally Posted by Michael Apple


>>>> as though Dkluck and whitetail98 here entertain the idea of shooting dogs rather than doing what is right. You have to wonder about people who think that way. I caught the same dog twice going after one of my pigs a few years back. I caught the large Husky, read his tag and took him home. I warned the owner to keep the dog under control for it's sake and his. The second time I took him back, I was very loud about my warning. It never happened again. I think some people forget it is THE OWNER who should accountable for what their dog does, not randomly shooting dogs simply because you can. <<<<<


First of all Michael. -- Have you ever had a dog killed any of your animals? And for the record I never "randomly" shoot dogs. We own 4 dogs and 3 cats that are NEVER allowed to roam beyond our property.

I always go to the owners (if they are known) and warned them about their dog and many times the local law does this too. You are correct "THE OWNER who should be accountable for what their dog does".... but, The bottom line is there are some dog owners who DO NOT care. ... so what do we do Michael??? ..Should we kick their *** because they are pathetic losers??..
The irresponsible dog owner is a piece of crap. They do NOT deserve to own a dog.....

Use your brain and work with locals in your area to get legislation passed to make punishment fit the crime in the case of irresponsible dog owners. Be responsible yourself and install adequate fencing.

 

[Judy]

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